# Game Talk

**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/c/game-talk/27.md?page=512

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## [Worlds collide](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/worlds-collide/2779)

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**Author:** [@system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/system)\
**Replies:** 31\
**Last updated:** [August 22, 2013, 5:30pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/worlds-collide/2779 "2013-08-22T17:30:53Z")

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I would love to see more of the other-world, and that got me thinking what If over time the other-world started to take over earth. It could work like this, after several in-game years more and more of the map starts cha…

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## [Suspensions: A use for springs on a more destructive level](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/suspensions-a-use-for-springs-on-a-more-destructive-level/2765)

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**Author:** [@detahramet](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/detahramet)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [August 22, 2013, 5:05pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/suspensions-a-use-for-springs-on-a-more-destructive-level/2765 "2013-08-22T17:05:38Z")

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Hello all. Are you tired of your cars being damage because you rammed into a bush at a high speed? Or a squirl? Or a child? Or an inter-dimensional horror? Well no more! I suggest new mechanic! when driving over t…

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## [Opening Manholes Does Not Leave a Manhole Cover](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opening-manholes-does-not-leave-a-manhole-cover/2753)

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**Author:** [@Rivet](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rivet)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [August 22, 2013, 3:16pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opening-manholes-does-not-leave-a-manhole-cover/2753 "2013-08-22T15:16:31Z")

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Exactly what it says on the tin. Open one with a crowbar and the cover ceases to exist.

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## [Swimming sports items](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/swimming-sports-items/2757)

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**Author:** [@TaigaR](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TaigaR)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [August 22, 2013, 3:08pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/swimming-sports-items/2757 "2013-08-22T15:08:05Z")

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We need some new items to add to the sport shops. Swimming vest - provides more bashing then cutting protection and makes character not to drown. Oar - you know, a thing to hit zombies.

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## [Amusing Experemental build crashes](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/amusing-experemental-build-crashes/2781)

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**Author:** [@keldoclock](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/keldoclock)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [August 22, 2013, 2:56pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/amusing-experemental-build-crashes/2781 "2013-08-22T14:56:46Z")

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field.cpp\[272\]: Whoooooa density of 116 field.cpp\[272\]: Whoooooa density of -80 field.cpp\[272\]: Whoooooa density of 116 field.cpp\[272\]: Whoooooa density of 116 field.cpp\[272\]: Whoooooa density of 116 field.cpp\[272\]:…

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## [Visualized graph of trait/mutation dependencies](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/visualized-graph-of-trait-mutation-dependencies/2759)

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**Author:** [@CIB](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/CIB)\
**Replies:** 13\
**Last updated:** [August 22, 2013, 2:24pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/visualized-graph-of-trait-mutation-dependencies/2759 "2013-08-22T14:24:41Z")

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I was bored… posting here since I can’t upload images to the wiki. =( \[URL=http://i.imgur.com/1WR52ON.png\]\[image\]\[/URL\] Made with the following function, called from main.cpp: void write\_trait\_dot() { std::ofstream f…

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## [Is the butcher's knife really better than the combat knife at butchering?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-the-butchers-knife-really-better-than-the-combat-knife-at-butchering/2663)

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**Author:** [@Paquito](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Paquito)\
**Replies:** 30\
**Last updated:** [August 21, 2013, 11:28pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-the-butchers-knife-really-better-than-the-combat-knife-at-butchering/2663 "2013-08-21T23:28:26Z")

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I thought butchering had to do with the level of cut on a particular weapon. But while the butcher’s knife has a lower cut score than the combat knife, the description says it’s the best item for butchering. How does thi…

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## [Butchered Meat Chunks Share Weight and Volume of Corpse](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/butchered-meat-chunks-share-weight-and-volume-of-corpse/2764)

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**Author:** [@Nasrudith](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Nasrudith)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [August 21, 2013, 7:34pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/butchered-meat-chunks-share-weight-and-volume-of-corpse/2764 "2013-08-21T19:34:37Z")

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I started butchering recently and I noticed a problem. The raw meat chunks all share the exact same weight and volume of the corpse resulting in an absurd amount of weight and volume being created by butchering. Thankful…

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## [We need(or not) strlen in utf-8?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-need-or-not-strlen-in-utf-8/2780)

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**Author:** [@LazyCat-rus](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/LazyCat-rus)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [August 21, 2013, 6:49pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-need-or-not-strlen-in-utf-8/2780 "2013-08-21T18:49:08Z")

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Hello. I need your help with issue #2575. I made path than fix this issue. Here is path: \[code\]diff --git a/050c0d1 b/09f3336 index 050c0d1…09f3336 100644 — a/050c0d1 +++ b/09f3336 @@ -4559,15 +4559,10 @@ int gam…

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## [Cataclysm on linux](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cataclysm-on-linux/2769)

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**Author:** [@youtoo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/youtoo)\
**Replies:** 15\
**Last updated:** [August 21, 2013, 6:35pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cataclysm-on-linux/2769 "2013-08-21T18:35:28Z")

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I briefly saw a lets play that claimed the game has more features when run on linux. is this true? just asking first. if it does, Ill try it in a linux VM.

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## [Quivers?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/quivers/2776)

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**Author:** [@MarkB](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/MarkB)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [August 21, 2013, 4:40pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/quivers/2776 "2013-08-21T16:40:25Z")

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I’m not sure if this is possible, but I was wondering if it would be possible to implement a quiver for use with archery? The basic concept I’m thinking of is a wearable, zero-coverage item that can be loaded with, say,…

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## [Trait Selection Bug](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/trait-selection-bug/2777)

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**Author:** [@Draconaes](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Draconaes)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [August 21, 2013, 3:35pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/trait-selection-bug/2777 "2013-08-21T15:35:56Z")

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Using latest experimental (last commit be3f610177e4e62a6db6454b2269714aa056f8aa). I noticed some odd behavior in the trait selection tab while creating a custom character. Specifically, if you select some negative trait…

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## [Poison](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/poison/2313)

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**Author:** [@TheGrifter](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheGrifter)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [August 21, 2013, 3:16pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/poison/2313 "2013-08-21T15:16:44Z")

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I’d like for poison to be implemented in the game. Poison knives, arrows, anything. Could make poisons of various strengths, from rat poison to cyanide. Though, I don’t think the effective dose of rat poison could fit o…

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## [NPC stat progression](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/npc-stat-progression/2754)

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**Author:** [@Sarge](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Sarge)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [August 21, 2013, 11:08am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/npc-stat-progression/2754 "2013-08-21T11:08:22Z")

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If I take them along with me, will they gain stats (unarmed, dodge etc) through experience?

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## [Multiple comestible USE ACTIONS](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/multiple-comestible-use-actions/2692)

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**Author:** [@TheGrifter](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheGrifter)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [August 21, 2013, 6:26am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/multiple-comestible-use-actions/2692 "2013-08-21T06:26:59Z")

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I think it’d be cool if you could mod in a combination effect drug. As is, there’s a bunch of different effects, PKILL1-4, COKE, METH, NONE, MUTAGEN, HALLU, etcetera, etcetera. What if I want hallucinogenic bathsalts me…

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## [How to use Jenkins PR Builds](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-use-jenkins-pr-builds/2775)

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**Author:** [@TheTinCat](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheTinCat)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [August 21, 2013, 3:46am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-use-jenkins-pr-builds/2775 "2013-08-21T03:46:17Z")

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So I’m sure somewhere someone is rolling their eyes cause its probably super obvious, but I’m not sure how to turn the files I get from the Jenkins PR site into a working form of Cataclysm. specifically I’m trying to ge…

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## [Developer Diary translation?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/developer-diary-translation/2772)

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**Author:** [@aiwant2tc](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/aiwant2tc)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [August 20, 2013, 10:36pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/developer-diary-translation/2772 "2013-08-20T22:36:34Z")

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So, should that be translated, like the “News” section of the site? p.s. A simple question. Can’t see any other translations though.

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## [5 Creation Point Quickstart Build](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/5-creation-point-quickstart-build/2767)

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**Author:** [@arctan2x](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/arctan2x)\
**Replies:** 14\
**Last updated:** [August 20, 2013, 9:30pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/5-creation-point-quickstart-build/2767 "2013-08-20T21:30:27Z")

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PLEASE NOTE: This is a quickstart build, not a supercharacter build. You will not ever win a hand to hand fight with a bear using this. You will also not spend three days throwing a duck at rabbits to train your survival…

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## [Cannot saw terrain stuff with hacksaw (patch)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cannot-saw-terrain-stuff-with-hacksaw-patch/2771)

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**Author:** [@mathieu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/mathieu)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [August 20, 2013, 9:16pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cannot-saw-terrain-stuff-with-hacksaw-patch/2771 "2013-08-20T21:16:18Z")

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Looks like there’s a nesting error with the “if” chain in iuse::hacksaw(). diff --git a/iuse.cpp b/iuse.cpp index 9d5e1f8..61b6ffa 100644 --- a/iuse.cpp +++ b/iuse.cpp @@ -3930,7 +3930,7 @@ if (dirx == p-\>posx && diry =…

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## [Cataclysm Player Hardware Survey](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cataclysm-player-hardware-survey/2694)

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**Author:** [@CIB](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/CIB)\
**Replies:** 28\
**Last updated:** [August 20, 2013, 8:44pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cataclysm-player-hardware-survey/2694 "2013-08-20T20:44:08Z")

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You can fill out the survey here: http://tinyurl.com/cdda-hardware-survey Results: http://tinyurl.com/cdda-hardware-survey-results This will help developers prioritize between performance and new/better functionality(a…

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## [Debug Message - NPC is Eating Weird Things](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/debug-message-npc-is-eating-weird-things/2749)

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**Author:** [@Rivet](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rivet)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [August 20, 2013, 7:32pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/debug-message-npc-is-eating-weird-things/2749 "2013-08-20T19:32:22Z")

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Cruising down the road past some NPCs I suddenly get the message: DEBUG: Zoey Robinson tried to eat a lighter Press spacebar… Amusing but probably not an intended behavior. Oh and it’s one of those debug messages tha…

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## [Loop structure](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/loop-structure/2556)

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**Author:** [@HRose](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/HRose)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [August 20, 2013, 7:23pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/loop-structure/2556 "2013-08-20T19:23:39Z")

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My question is generic since I’m a totally noob and trying to understand how these games are structured. But I’m curious to know how Cataclysm handles this. My problem is that I have a tendency to create loop branches t…

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## [NPCs in 7.1](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/npcs-in-7-1/2768)

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**Author:** [@youtoo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/youtoo)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [August 20, 2013, 5:06pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/npcs-in-7-1/2768 "2013-08-20T17:06:44Z")

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I have been sticking with NPCs off since the defualt was set to that. Has anywork been done with them? Or are they the same?

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## [How to write debug messages?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-write-debug-messages/2766)

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**Author:** [@LazyCat-rus](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/LazyCat-rus)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [August 20, 2013, 4:49pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-write-debug-messages/2766 "2013-08-20T16:49:39Z")

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I need write some debug messages to file. How to do it without pain? I tryed use dbg like that: dbg(D\_INFO) \<\< string\_fprmat("%s/%s), s1, s2). But my logg.txt is almost empty. I’m doing it wrong?

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## [Zombie necromancers / resurrection](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/zombie-necromancers-resurrection/2758)

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**Author:** [@DG123](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DG123)\
**Replies:** 13\
**Last updated:** [August 20, 2013, 4:25pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/zombie-necromancers-resurrection/2758 "2013-08-20T16:25:22Z")

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Can anyone explain the Necromancers to me? There’s nothing on the wiki about them raising the dead, as far as I can tell, but I am using the older version of the game (and older wiki). Do they do that? I did see a huge z…

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## [UI world interactions streamline?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ui-world-interactions-streamline/2724)

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**Author:** [@moist\_zombie](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/moist_zombie)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [August 20, 2013, 3:29pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ui-world-interactions-streamline/2724 "2013-08-20T15:29:59Z")

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I’d basically like to see all the options you can access through shift+number keys (crafting, sleeping, kill list, construction) all simply popped up in a menu with the ‘z’ key. It does add one extra keypress, I suppose,…

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## [40mm grenade Recipe](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/40mm-grenade-recipe/2714)

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**Author:** [@jacob4408](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/jacob4408)\
**Replies:** 29\
**Last updated:** [August 20, 2013, 2:46pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/40mm-grenade-recipe/2714 "2013-08-20T14:46:19Z")

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It always bothered me that I can reload any type of ammo except 40mm grenades. I’m considering adding a recipe for it. Any thoughts on what it should require?

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## [Share your best screenshots!](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/share-your-best-screenshots/1135)

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**Author:** [@GlyphGryph](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/GlyphGryph)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [August 20, 2013, 12:48pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/share-your-best-screenshots/1135 "2013-08-20T12:48:08Z")

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kevingranade says: Hi guys, in order to show off the game, I’m starting a screenshot thread. Please contribute any and all screenshots that you’ve taken of particularly interesting scenarios you’ve gotten yourself into,…

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## [Too many bionics, keybinds absent?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/too-many-bionics-keybinds-absent/2763)

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**Author:** [@Nukeitall](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Nukeitall)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [August 20, 2013, 6:22am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/too-many-bionics-keybinds-absent/2763 "2013-08-20T06:22:37Z")

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Much like the topic says, I seem to have too many CBMs and now I don’t have any new keybinds assigned to new bionics. Is there a way around this? Alternatively, I hope the developers see this issue and work it out in fut…

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## [Ranged melee weapons?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ranged-melee-weapons/2631)

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**Author:** [@Tripsky](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Tripsky)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [August 20, 2013, 2:08am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ranged-melee-weapons/2631 "2013-08-20T02:08:24Z")

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so let’s begin by saying I have very little in the way of computer skills. let’s just let that sink in :slight\_smile: i’ve been trying to make a bull whip to put in the game, and i can get it to spawn via debug so it wo…

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