# Game Talk

**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/c/game-talk/27.md?page=495

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## [Forest Spring](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/forest-spring/3450)

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**Author:** [@SBombay](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/SBombay)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [October 10, 2013, 11:45am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/forest-spring/3450 "2013-10-10T11:45:51Z")

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A single infinite CLEAN water tile only found in forests.

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## [Telling Temperature](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/telling-temperature/3447)

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**Author:** [@deadmerits](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/deadmerits)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [October 10, 2013, 11:44am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/telling-temperature/3447 "2013-10-10T11:44:40Z")

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Basically I’m thinking that, like time, temperature should be ambiguous unless you have like a thermometer or something similar. I did a search and basically the same thing was said by our own Kevin Granade (back in Jan…

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## [Slow time passing while sleeping](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/slow-time-passing-while-sleeping/3441)

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**Author:** [@matew](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/matew)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [October 10, 2013, 11:05am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/slow-time-passing-while-sleeping/3441 "2013-10-10T11:05:53Z")

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I don’t know if this is caused by my instalation of cygwin or something else. When my character tries to sleep the time passes a bit slow. So before he gets a full night of sleep it takes about 60 seconds to pass in rea…

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## [Survival Straps](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/survival-straps/3429)

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**Author:** [@Miloch](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Miloch)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [October 10, 2013, 3:59am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/survival-straps/3429 "2013-10-10T03:59:22Z")

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http://www.survivalstraps.com/men/original-survival-straps/regular-survival-bracelet.html/?c=ss&gclid=CL2Sv5bjiboCFShp7AodLV0AzQ Basically rope as a bracelet. A good possible starting item for certain kits. People in …

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## [Metal Arrow - Requirements bug?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/metal-arrow-requirements-bug/3435)

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**Author:** [@Zenone](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Zenone)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [October 9, 2013, 10:38pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/metal-arrow-requirements-bug/3435 "2013-10-09T22:38:39Z")

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hi guys, i really love this game, but i’ve a little problem: i can’t craft metal arrow despite i satisfy the requirements that the wiki says (mechanics 1 and archery 7) it’s a bug or what? i’ve crafted arrowhead, fle…

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## [\[Implemented\] New recipe format and tool qualities](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/implemented-new-recipe-format-and-tool-qualities/3361)

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**Author:** [@GlyphGryph](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/GlyphGryph)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [October 9, 2013, 8:40pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/implemented-new-recipe-format-and-tool-qualities/3361 "2013-10-09T20:40:40Z")

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There is a new recipe format in the recipe files. This builds on the existing format, rather than replacing it. It does not work for items that consume charges when used. The new format is based on a new tag, “qualities…

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## [Bindle](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bindle/3439)

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**Author:** [@Redwallzyl](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Redwallzyl)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [October 9, 2013, 7:49pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bindle/3439 "2013-10-09T19:49:16Z")

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\[size=36pt\]CATACLYSM\[/size\] \[image\] \[size=24pt\]Bindles anyone?\[/size\] Just couldn’t resist that

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## [Pile of rubble](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/pile-of-rubble/3430)

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**Author:** [@zveroboy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/zveroboy)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [October 9, 2013, 6:13pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/pile-of-rubble/3430 "2013-10-09T18:13:26Z")

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i found on the road a field of ‘pile of rubble’. when i’ve exam it, it’s displayed as ‘FORCE\_CAPITAL\_YN’. if i take it away, in log it shows like ‘you take DESTROY\_ITEM’.

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## [Help! My mansion has been griefed my an a\*\*hole!](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/help-my-mansion-has-been-griefed-my-an-a-hole/3434)

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**Author:** [@StopSignal](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/StopSignal)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [October 9, 2013, 6:13pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/help-my-mansion-has-been-griefed-my-an-a-hole/3434 "2013-10-09T18:13:01Z")

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Well, i was walking happy when i crossed a mansion, and i decided to enter. So… when i entered, i noticed something odd: The poor tables were sidewalks, the chairs were yellow pavement and the tables were mounts of dirt…

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## [Makeshift funnels in experimental version](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/makeshift-funnels-in-experimental-version/3436)

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**Author:** [@AseaHeru](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/AseaHeru)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [October 9, 2013, 5:46pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/makeshift-funnels-in-experimental-version/3436 "2013-10-09T17:46:07Z")

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In version 0.8-798-gc4aec66 it seems that makeshift funnels have a bug. This bug seems to be that when one has one set up, logs off and then back on the funnel despawns, leaving no item behind. This seems not to affect …

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## [Masterkey shotgun bug](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/masterkey-shotgun-bug/3427)

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**Author:** [@Big\_Phil](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Big_Phil)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [October 9, 2013, 5:03pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/masterkey-shotgun-bug/3427 "2013-10-09T17:03:20Z")

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I’ve just started with this game. Enjoying it very much. Anyway, I was out bear hunting. As it got close, I wielded my FN FAL which has a suppressor, an adjustable stock, a rifle scope and a masterkey shotgun attached…

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## [Survivor gear expansion!](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/survivor-gear-expansion/3423)

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**Author:** [@Rivet](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rivet)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [October 9, 2013, 3:17pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/survivor-gear-expansion/3423 "2013-10-09T15:17:37Z")

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GIT STATUS : MERGED A little more love for the survivor gear! New craftable survivor gloves, boots, and helmet to match the existing survivor gear. New craftable survivor suit variant made for cold weather survival.

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## [This game is awful difficult](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/this-game-is-awful-difficult/3411)

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**Author:** [@Jager](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Jager)\
**Replies:** 26\
**Last updated:** [October 9, 2013, 3:11pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/this-game-is-awful-difficult/3411 "2013-10-09T15:11:36Z")

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I can’t play it without cheats. I can’t run fast enough to escape zombies, and if I try to fight I get instantly bitten with melee weapons anyways. I can’t go anywhere near the city or else I get instantly mauled by one …

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## [New Monster - Shook](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/new-monster-shook/3360)

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**Author:** [@GlyphGryph](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/GlyphGryph)\
**Replies:** 45\
**Last updated:** [October 9, 2013, 2:13pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/new-monster-shook/3360 "2013-10-09T14:13:53Z")

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The shook is a small mostly non-hostile nethercreature, it’s back covered with fine bristled fur. It almost vibrates with abundant energy, and sniffs at the air frequently as it scurries back and forth. It will follow th…

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## [Throwing batteries does no damage](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/throwing-batteries-does-no-damage/3214)

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**Author:** [@TheGrifter](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheGrifter)\
**Replies:** 26\
**Last updated:** [October 9, 2013, 12:13pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/throwing-batteries-does-no-damage/3214 "2013-10-09T12:13:12Z")

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I don’t know if you’ve ever been hit by a battery… But it hurts. A lot. Sometimes, at ball games, audience members will throw batteries, to hurt the players of the opposing teams. It hurts them, a lot. But if I throw a …

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## [Random randomization of randomly randomized things!](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/random-randomization-of-randomly-randomized-things/3387)

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**Author:** [@moist\_zombie](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/moist_zombie)\
**Replies:** 15\
**Last updated:** [October 9, 2013, 10:26am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/random-randomization-of-randomly-randomized-things/3387 "2013-10-09T10:26:16Z")

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Been lots of talk over time about randomizing things… Figured I’d post a hopefully complete recollection of what I’ve heard float by so far… Random books, random t-shirts/hats (slogans or images), random posters/graffit…

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## [KBM Transition lenses](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/kbm-transition-lenses/3426)

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**Author:** [@zveroboy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/zveroboy)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [October 9, 2013, 7:31am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/kbm-transition-lenses/3426 "2013-10-09T07:31:05Z")

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hi all! i’ve a question bout this KBM. it protects from light flashes. but in some prescriptions, such as the manufacture of plates, required goggle anyway. this is the way it should be, or it need to be fixed?

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## [Tilesets fail to use full available screen area](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tilesets-fail-to-use-full-available-screen-area/3424)

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**Author:** [@Endovior](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Endovior)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [October 9, 2013, 7:29am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tilesets-fail-to-use-full-available-screen-area/3424 "2013-10-09T07:29:31Z")

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I have a widescreen monitor, so I like to give cata lots of space, adjusting the size of the viewport in the interface screen (90x32 is large enough to completely fill my screen). Using ASCII graphics, I found that a wi…

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## [Bringing Down the Walls](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bringing-down-the-walls/3349)

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**Author:** [@Miloch](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Miloch)\
**Replies:** 23\
**Last updated:** [October 9, 2013, 7:17am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bringing-down-the-walls/3349 "2013-10-09T07:17:44Z")

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What tools will bring down a house wall? I’ve tried a wood axe about 20 times as the biggest thing so far. Will try a sledgehammer when I can.

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## [Axe](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/axe/3425)

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**Author:** [@zveroboy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/zveroboy)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [October 9, 2013, 6:43am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/axe/3425 "2013-10-09T06:43:23Z")

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I got a problem with cutting of trees. because in recipe i have no description of normal axe. why can i use normal axe for it?

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## [Minor translation-update release 0.8.0.1 pending](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/minor-translation-update-release-0-8-0-1-pending/3256)

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**Author:** [@yobbo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/yobbo)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [October 9, 2013, 2:15am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/minor-translation-update-release-0-8-0-1-pending/3256 "2013-10-09T02:15:42Z")

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I’ve backported a few recent translation fixes to the 0.8 version. The pull request is at: https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/3279 If there are any other urgent fixes, post a message there or here. The …

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## [CataIcon Set](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cataicon-set/3034)

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**Author:** [@vultures](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/vultures)\
**Replies:** 15\
**Last updated:** [October 8, 2013, 11:48pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cataicon-set/3034 "2013-10-08T23:48:51Z")

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I made an icon set (.icl) for CataclysmDDA using the original .ico file that’s used for game’s executive file. I did only some minor changes, so whenever (and I think it’s all the time) you’ve got multiple builds at the …

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## [Minor Fire Related Issues](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/minor-fire-related-issues/3419)

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**Author:** [@Miloch](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Miloch)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [October 8, 2013, 11:24pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/minor-fire-related-issues/3419 "2013-10-08T23:24:48Z")

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Immortal Arrows Wood Arrow Shafts will not burn away in a fire. I made a bunch of extra ones and threw them in the fire to burn up. They will not go… This was in the experimental build I grabbed today. Heatless Fire …

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## [Removing Tilesets](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/removing-tilesets/3416)

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**Author:** [@Redstonize](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Redstonize)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [October 8, 2013, 10:10pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/removing-tilesets/3416 "2013-10-08T22:10:26Z")

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Yes, I know… it’s the future, the way it has to be… the inevitable fate of hummanity that’ll release zombies everywhere. Nobody can change that, it’s the developpers choice. But come’on ! It’s all great, implementing fa…

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## [Samedi mac?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/samedi-mac/3415)

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**Author:** [@madoobler\_sauce](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/madoobler_sauce)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [October 8, 2013, 9:49pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/samedi-mac/3415 "2013-10-08T21:49:59Z")

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I can’t find this anywhere, and I know it exists. can someone link it?

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## [Tables and chairs replaced by sidewalk](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tables-and-chairs-replaced-by-sidewalk/3408)

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**Author:** [@Vronkio](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Vronkio)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [October 8, 2013, 9:47pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tables-and-chairs-replaced-by-sidewalk/3408 "2013-10-08T21:47:19Z")

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Happening in the lastest experimental build. Curses if it’s any different.

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## [Latest build Win32 #390 crashes at startup](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/latest-build-win32-390-crashes-at-startup/3355)

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**Author:** [@VampyreLord](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/VampyreLord)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [October 8, 2013, 9:46pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/latest-build-win32-390-crashes-at-startup/3355 "2013-10-08T21:46:34Z")

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As the title says. Runtime error appears and it had to terminate the program. The non-SDL version. The latest SDL version works fine but the curses version not. This log is under “view problem details”: Problem Event N…

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## [How do I aim headlights?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-do-i-aim-headlights/3414)

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**Author:** [@jcannon98188](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/jcannon98188)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [October 8, 2013, 9:46pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-do-i-aim-headlights/3414 "2013-10-08T21:46:06Z")

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Are headlights for cars aimable? I was building a car, and accidently built in backwards (my steering wheel was in the back, trunk in the front. doh.) but one thing I realized is I was not able to aim the headlights. It…

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## [Tables going through walls ( Official 0.8 Release )](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tables-going-through-walls-official-0-8-release/3393)

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**Author:** [@bubbadoo14](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/bubbadoo14)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [October 8, 2013, 9:39pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tables-going-through-walls-official-0-8-release/3393 "2013-10-08T21:39:25Z")

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I find that Pawn shops and Houses sometimes have tables over walls allowing to walk through the wall! \[image\] \[image\]

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## [Water in the Wild / Poncho shelter](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/water-in-the-wild-poncho-shelter/3412)

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**Author:** [@Miloch](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Miloch)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [October 8, 2013, 8:12pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/water-in-the-wild-poncho-shelter/3412 "2013-10-08T20:12:01Z")

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Right now I’m trying to play a survivalist character. The number one biggest pain in my butt is water. As someone born in New England I’ll tell you water is not that hard to come back in that area. Due to the very hil…

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