# Game Talk

**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/c/game-talk/27.md?page=479

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## [Seeming bug in newest version of cataclism (experimental)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/seeming-bug-in-newest-version-of-cataclism-experimental/3967)

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**Author:** [@AseaHeru](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/AseaHeru)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [November 14, 2013, 9:15pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/seeming-bug-in-newest-version-of-cataclism-experimental/3967 "2013-11-14T21:15:47Z")

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newest of less than half an hour of post time that is. Seems the game crashes on deconstructing things. Pity, that was a good save. Also, this may be fixed but reloading saves seems to cause crashes.

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## [Suggestion: gang-up bonus for monsters](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/suggestion-gang-up-bonus-for-monsters/3929)

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**Author:** [@Aluminumfoil](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Aluminumfoil)\
**Replies:** 15\
**Last updated:** [November 14, 2013, 8:52pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/suggestion-gang-up-bonus-for-monsters/3929 "2013-11-14T20:52:41Z")

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New characters have to fight monsters one or two at a time anyway, or they will get ripped to bits. Experienced characters are too powerful and can streak into town naked and bludgeon a hundred zombies (hulks included) …

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## [\[Suggestion\] Drinking straight from the pot](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/suggestion-drinking-straight-from-the-pot/3944)

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**Author:** [@MisterFox](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/MisterFox)\
**Replies:** 16\
**Last updated:** [November 14, 2013, 7:30pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/suggestion-drinking-straight-from-the-pot/3944 "2013-11-14T19:30:20Z")

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When making a liquid, I’d like the option to be able to drink it straight out of the pot. Why should you have to pour soup into a bottle or gasoline into a waterskin to be able to drink it? I don’t mean turning the pots …

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## [\[WIP\] Weapon Durability](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/wip-weapon-durability/3949)

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**Author:** [@freezerbunny](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/freezerbunny)\
**Replies:** 17\
**Last updated:** [November 14, 2013, 6:45pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/wip-weapon-durability/3949 "2013-11-14T18:45:18Z")

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Here we have it! Weapon durability and repairing. Right now it’s only when you smash another object. All objects can be repaired using the standard tools. It gives you a very slight chance to damage the weapon based o…

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## [Throwing (Calculations, strategy, etc)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/throwing-calculations-strategy-etc/3147)

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**Author:** [@Klomvp](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Klomvp)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [November 14, 2013, 6:39pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/throwing-calculations-strategy-etc/3147 "2013-11-14T18:39:16Z")

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So I’ve taken a liking to throwing based characters, namely because of how stupidly fast you gain skill in it. Can I hear a detailed explanation of how throwing range, damage, etc, is calculated? It seems the throwing s…

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## [Worthwhile Martial Arts for Inclusion (make your case here!)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/worthwhile-martial-arts-for-inclusion-make-your-case-here/3299)

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**Author:** [@GlyphGryph](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/GlyphGryph)\
**Replies:** 77\
**Last updated:** [November 14, 2013, 5:32pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/worthwhile-martial-arts-for-inclusion-make-your-case-here/3299 "2013-11-14T17:32:22Z")

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Right now, there’s a lot of crazy instability in our martial arts systems. There’s a lot of martial arts that are worthless to take, certain martial arts that are missing, and a good deal could be easily combined. So he…

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## [0.8 2500 g8bf26aa Weird car bug](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-8-2500-g8bf26aa-weird-car-bug/3841)

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**Author:** [@ramesesniblet](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ramesesniblet)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [November 14, 2013, 4:12pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-8-2500-g8bf26aa-weird-car-bug/3841 "2013-11-14T16:12:35Z")

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I know I’m a version or two behind so this might be fixed, but I was out in my armoured car when suddenly I wasn’t in it anymore, but I was floating a number of tiles away and travelling at the same speed as the car. Pre…

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## [Cataclysm Tactics](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cataclysm-tactics/3900)

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**Author:** [@heke](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/heke)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [November 14, 2013, 4:07pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cataclysm-tactics/3900 "2013-11-14T16:07:35Z")

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Good day everyone, heke here and I’d like to present to you an idea of a tactics mod. Idea is that everyone wants useful NPCs, but implementing smart and authonomous NPC behaviour is clearly a pain, so why don’t we dump…

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## [Prepper, New class](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/prepper-new-class/3978)

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**Author:** [@Ahk](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ahk)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [November 14, 2013, 3:38pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/prepper-new-class/3978 "2013-11-14T15:38:45Z")

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Doomsday Prepper Cost:5 points Starting Gear: Flashlight, Lighter, Mre Beef and Veg, ect.-open for suggestions “You prepared your whole life for this moment, people thought you were nuts…Its the end of the world…Now w…

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## ["DigPit crash" 0.9RC1-181-gb381798](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/digpit-crash-0-9rc1-181-gb381798/3982)

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**Author:** [@Ratinod](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ratinod)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [November 14, 2013, 2:45pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/digpit-crash-0-9rc1-181-gb381798/3982 "2013-11-14T14:45:29Z")

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"DigPit crash" When i try “DigPit” (using “digging stick”) game crashes without errors. additional information: SDL OS : Windows 7 build : 0.9RC1-181-gb381798

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## [The DIY list](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-diy-list/3979)

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**Author:** [@Logrin](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Logrin)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [November 14, 2013, 2:05pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-diy-list/3979 "2013-11-14T14:05:56Z")

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Feel free to bloat this thread with any and all the cobbled together DIY items you think are missing from our cataclysms. Pics if you got em’ I’ll start with a healthy dose of awesome… The Stinger \[spoiler=Image\]\[ima…

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## [\[0.8 SDL Stable\] Consistently crashing (Windows 7)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-8-sdl-stable-consistently-crashing-windows-7/3805)

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**Author:** [@Mamalque](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Mamalque)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [November 14, 2013, 11:48am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-8-sdl-stable-consistently-crashing-windows-7/3805 "2013-11-14T11:48:57Z")

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\[image\] I’m consistently getting that error and a crash. I experimented a bit and it seems to happen in two instances. This is a very large save file, mind you. I’m currently standing with a lot of the map explored to m…

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## [So I tried playing without tilesets for the first time, and](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/so-i-tried-playing-without-tilesets-for-the-first-time-and/3918)

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**Author:** [@voskhod](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/voskhod)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [November 14, 2013, 11:25am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/so-i-tried-playing-without-tilesets-for-the-first-time-and/3918 "2013-11-14T11:25:02Z")

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\[image\] …And I actually think it’s better than playing with any tiles at all. …Is what I would say, if it were not for a very big problem I have with this: The default texture is just periods. Lots and lots of . . . . …

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## [Magazine/Book sleep pad?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/magazine-book-sleep-pad/3957)

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**Author:** [@Vronkio](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Vronkio)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [November 14, 2013, 10:15am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/magazine-book-sleep-pad/3957 "2013-11-14T10:15:04Z")

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This idea came upon me when I camped out at a gas station soon after starting a new game and I found a sizeable quantity of books and magazines but had no place to sleep on. I imagined that if I was in that situation I’d…

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## [Very long load game](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/very-long-load-game/3970)

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**Author:** [@kaleb\_22](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kaleb_22)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [November 14, 2013, 8:54am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/very-long-load-game/3970 "2013-11-14T08:54:47Z")

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My game loading 3-10 minut. Version 13 november russian(http://cataclyzm.ru/post/36). Config: win 7 64, amd-fx 6200, 16gb ram, amd radeon HD 6670. Wold have standart option. Im reconnoitred a large area of ​​the map, bu…

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## [\[0.9-g826f765\] DEBUG: Could not find monster with type](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-9-g826f765-debug-could-not-find-monster-with-type/3935)

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**Author:** [@EkarusRyndren](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/EkarusRyndren)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [November 14, 2013, 5:22am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-9-g826f765-debug-could-not-find-monster-with-type/3935 "2013-11-14T05:22:12Z")

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I keep getting that message anytime I’m in a lab, does anyone know what this means? Or how to fix it?

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## [Power Systems!](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/power-systems/3974)

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**Author:** [@djrodw](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/djrodw)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [November 14, 2013, 3:17am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/power-systems/3974 "2013-11-14T03:17:01Z")

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copper wiring, lights, gas generators, switches, motion sensors, Non vehicular machine components… you get the idea right? and the ability to set these things up. imagine a bunker with lights in every room you can togg…

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## [Efficient way of clearing forest?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/efficient-way-of-clearing-forest/3855)

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**Author:** [@Aluminumfoil](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Aluminumfoil)\
**Replies:** 29\
**Last updated:** [November 14, 2013, 1:47am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/efficient-way-of-clearing-forest/3855 "2013-11-14T01:47:59Z")

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I’ve tried hacking at bushes and felling trees, but that takes forever. I’ve tried high explosives but that doesn’t seem to work very well and I’d run out of ammunition long before I made a path. I suppose I could try …

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## [0.9 Crash (screenshot)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-9-crash-screenshot/3966)

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**Author:** [@Hyena\_Grin](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Hyena_Grin)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [November 14, 2013, 1:20am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-9-crash-screenshot/3966 "2013-11-14T01:20:24Z")

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Got a crash to desktop when trying to clean a broken window. Upon trying to load the autosave from shortly before the crash, I got the following error message and the game stopped loading (froze). \[spoiler\] \[image\]\[/sp…

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## [Fatal error still occuring](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/fatal-error-still-occuring/3938)

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**Author:** [@timtek](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/timtek)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [November 14, 2013, 1:13am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/fatal-error-still-occuring/3938 "2013-11-14T01:13:17Z")

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.9.RC1-119-ga1de372 SDL Win XP Still unable to load old save files from previous experimental builds. I’m getting the same crash as last time. The last version my save file worked on was 0.9.RC1-76-g77e5f36. Hope this…

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## [Stylish not sunglasses](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stylish-not-sunglasses/3976)

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**Author:** [@Weyrling](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Weyrling)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [November 14, 2013, 1:02am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stylish-not-sunglasses/3976 "2013-11-14T01:02:10Z")

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The stylish sunglasses do not block the glare of sunlight.

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## [\[BUGFIX\] Stairs, teleportation, and mob disappearing when they shouldn't](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bugfix-stairs-teleportation-and-mob-disappearing-when-they-shouldnt/3942)

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**Author:** [@freezerbunny](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/freezerbunny)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [November 13, 2013, 9:29pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bugfix-stairs-teleportation-and-mob-disappearing-when-they-shouldnt/3942 "2013-11-13T21:29:22Z")

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\#4291 Fixes a lot of things related to disappearing mobs, including going upstairs/downstairs. If you went up/down stairs, the mobs around you would vanish when you come back. If you load the game, the monsters that l…

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## [What happened to mac?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-happened-to-mac/3960)

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**Author:** [@1D-1\_T](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/1D-1_T)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [November 13, 2013, 8:43pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-happened-to-mac/3960 "2013-11-13T20:43:36Z")

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Hi. I’m new around here, and I was wandering, what happened to mac support? Does it normally come a bit after a new update, or has it been dropped? I’m asking because a mac version is unavailable on the main page. Tha…

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## [.8 Body straining under weight while driving](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/8-body-straining-under-weight-while-driving/3968)

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**Author:** [@Paquito](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Paquito)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [November 13, 2013, 8:40pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/8-body-straining-under-weight-while-driving/3968 "2013-11-13T20:40:56Z")

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I get straining when carrying something heavy, but when I’m in my car, this seems silly. My rucksack is on the passenger side seat man!

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## [MOVED: Seeming bug in newest version of cataclism (experimental)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/moved-seeming-bug-in-newest-version-of-cataclism-experimental/3969)

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**Author:** [@GlyphGryph](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/GlyphGryph)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [November 13, 2013, 4:27pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/moved-seeming-bug-in-newest-version-of-cataclism-experimental/3969 "2013-11-13T16:27:18Z")

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This topic has been moved to The Garage - Bug Reports and Technical Help. \[iurl\]http://smf.cataclysmdda.com/index.php?topic=4205.0\[/iurl\]

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## [Experimental builds are 404'd](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/experimental-builds-are-404d/3955)

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**Author:** [@timtek](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/timtek)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [November 13, 2013, 4:19pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/experimental-builds-are-404d/3955 "2013-11-13T16:19:26Z")

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Just tried downloading from the main cataclysm page, curses, sdl and linux are all 404’d.

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## [Suggestion: deep water should reduce ambient warmth](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/suggestion-deep-water-should-reduce-ambient-warmth/3958)

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**Author:** [@Aluminumfoil](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Aluminumfoil)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [November 13, 2013, 4:16pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/suggestion-deep-water-should-reduce-ambient-warmth/3958 "2013-11-13T16:16:07Z")

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I noticed this while playing a few minutes ago. It was 95 degrees F and sunny, so I started baking as soon as I got out of my car, even though I was in my warm-weather gear. So I got my bathing suit and hopped in the l…

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## [Chainsaw arm replacement Bionic](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/chainsaw-arm-replacement-bionic/3933)

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**Author:** [@Keyreper](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Keyreper)\
**Replies:** 16\
**Last updated:** [November 13, 2013, 3:12pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/chainsaw-arm-replacement-bionic/3933 "2013-11-13T15:12:43Z")

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A Chainsaw arm replacement Bionic, nuff said, all credit goes to someone named by MewPewMewPew on Twitch, good day

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## [.8 Can't make clean water with 1 pot + 1 bottle of water](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/8-cant-make-clean-water-with-1-pot-1-bottle-of-water/3950)

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**Author:** [@Paquito](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Paquito)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [November 13, 2013, 2:32pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/8-cant-make-clean-water-with-1-pot-1-bottle-of-water/3950 "2013-11-13T14:32:43Z")

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Not sure if this has already been fixed in a version of .9, and this only really effects early game character, but you can’t make clean water using 1 bottle of water and a pot, because “you don’t have anything to put the…

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## [Landmines a tad too heavy?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/landmines-a-tad-too-heavy/3956)

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**Author:** [@AerialK7](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/AerialK7)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [November 13, 2013, 12:38pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/landmines-a-tad-too-heavy/3956 "2013-11-13T12:38:00Z")

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13KG is a bit heavy…Especially for an anti-personnel landmine. \[spoiler\]\[image\]\[/spoiler\] Something like that? Even the WW2 bouncing betties were like 4KG

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