# Game Talk

**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/c/game-talk/27.md?page=471

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## [To hit bonus on armor?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/to-hit-bonus-on-armor/4253)

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**Author:** [@Paquito](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Paquito)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [November 28, 2013, 2:17am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/to-hit-bonus-on-armor/4253 "2013-11-28T02:17:25Z")

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Is the to-hit bonus listed on armor and other clothing applied when you wear it? Or is that stat only used if you wield it as a weapon?

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## [M203 bug](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/m203-bug/4236)

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**Author:** [@KennyZloj](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KennyZloj)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [November 27, 2013, 7:55pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/m203-bug/4236 "2013-11-27T19:55:39Z")

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I am attaching M203 to the rifle (Bushmaster ACR for example), then reloading the rifle with the regular ammo (.223 in example), then trying to load 40 mm grenade in the attached M203 and M203 don’t want to reload. If i …

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## [\[0.9-1153-g324a8a7\] an electrocar charges the battery by his own headlights](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-9-1153-g324a8a7-an-electrocar-charges-the-battery-by-his-own-headlights/4231)

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**Author:** [@Savidiy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Savidiy)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [November 27, 2013, 7:41pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-9-1153-g324a8a7-an-electrocar-charges-the-battery-by-his-own-headlights/4231 "2013-11-27T19:41:57Z")

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I added to the standard electrocar lights that shine back and it turned out that night with the engine switched off and the lights battery is charged.

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## [Useless melee piercing: Bug, unimplemented, or feature?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/useless-melee-piercing-bug-unimplemented-or-feature/4260)

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**Author:** [@raccoon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/raccoon)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [November 27, 2013, 7:10pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/useless-melee-piercing-bug-unimplemented-or-feature/4260 "2013-11-27T19:10:10Z")

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Versons 0.7 stable and 0.9 stable: I’ve always noticed that melee piercing weapons don’t work as well as advertised. For example, a cutting weapon with a “Cut” score of 10 works WAY better than a spear with a “Pierce” …

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## [Cut vs Pierce](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cut-vs-pierce/4254)

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**Author:** [@Paquito](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Paquito)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [November 27, 2013, 6:15pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cut-vs-pierce/4254 "2013-11-27T18:15:01Z")

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The combat knife lists a “pierce” value, while the machete lists a “cut” value. What’s the difference? Is it just a matter of cutting skill vs piercing skill that’s developed? When calculating throwing damage, are pierci…

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## [Blood Adders](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/blood-adders/4251)

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**Author:** [@Catfoodbob](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Catfoodbob)\
**Replies:** 26\
**Last updated:** [November 27, 2013, 5:06pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/blood-adders/4251 "2013-11-27T17:06:43Z")

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Basically, a Giant snake, that spits molten blood at you. I would say that it would have a rare chance of it spawning it on its own. BUT, The scent of blood on the ground would raise the spawn rate of the adders depend…

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## [Cataclysm: Easy Days Ahead (AKA, DDA is way too damned easy)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cataclysm-easy-days-ahead-aka-dda-is-way-too-damned-easy/4220)

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**Author:** [@ClaytonRISING](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ClaytonRISING)\
**Replies:** 129\
**Last updated:** [November 27, 2013, 3:07pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cataclysm-easy-days-ahead-aka-dda-is-way-too-damned-easy/4220 "2013-11-27T15:07:14Z")

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Yup, there it is: CDDA is way too damned easy. I’ll list some reasons why, in no particular order. There is way too much loot. It’s like we are the only people in the whole world who have needed to loot anything. Ever…

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## [Missions](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/missions/4257)

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**Author:** [@StopSignal](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/StopSignal)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [November 27, 2013, 2:51pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/missions/4257 "2013-11-27T14:51:08Z")

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I mean, it woulb be cool to add user made missions to the game. I mean, we already have the world editor! We just would only need to build the places. I mean, making places, labs, things etc with the Debug menu, editing…

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## [Rendering the cataclysm world/map using a different font than the hud/menus](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/rendering-the-cataclysm-world-map-using-a-different-font-than-the-hud-menus/4234)

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**Author:** [@Ratha](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ratha)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [November 27, 2013, 2:31pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/rendering-the-cataclysm-world-map-using-a-different-font-than-the-hud-menus/4234 "2013-11-27T14:31:26Z")

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There has always been an issue that players struggled with when it came to cataclysm: They could either have a nice readable interface, or they could have a nice square game world. This was understandably so; the game us…

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## [One Determined Bear](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/one-determined-bear/4205)

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**Author:** [@EkarusRyndren](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/EkarusRyndren)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [November 27, 2013, 2:11pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/one-determined-bear/4205 "2013-11-27T14:11:02Z")

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So for the past fifteen days there’s been a bear trying to tunnel through a pickup truck outside my workshop that I’m building my vehicle in. This really doesn’t seem like bear like behavior to me, perhaps it’s a new en…

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## [Implement river floor as a separate Z-level](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/implement-river-floor-as-a-separate-z-level/4219)

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**Author:** [@Inadequate](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Inadequate)\
**Replies:** 14\
**Last updated:** [November 27, 2013, 2:05pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/implement-river-floor-as-a-separate-z-level/4219 "2013-11-27T14:05:23Z")

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Right now the bottom of deep water seems to be in this weird in-between state. I think if it was implemented as a basement level, it would make things a lot more fun for gilled characters. You could build underwater base…

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## [What would be the size of stuff?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-would-be-the-size-of-stuff/4249)

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**Author:** [@Ideka](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ideka)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [November 27, 2013, 1:02pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-would-be-the-size-of-stuff/4249 "2013-11-27T13:02:04Z")

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I’m assuming tiles represent a space of a certain size in square meters/square feet. Anyone knows what size would this be?

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## [Microsoft C++ Runtime error?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/microsoft-c-runtime-error/4256)

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**Author:** [@Ionward](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ionward)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [November 27, 2013, 11:54am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/microsoft-c-runtime-error/4256 "2013-11-27T11:54:01Z")

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\[image\] I’ve been playing on this world for about 14-15 ingame days, then when I tried to load it started freezing always at the 1900/11792 mark, and then this error pops up. I’m running Windows 7 32-bit, I’ve updated t…

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## [Nerf Cooked Meat](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/nerf-cooked-meat/4120)

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**Author:** [@Heruedhel](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Heruedhel)\
**Replies:** 119\
**Last updated:** [November 27, 2013, 11:10am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/nerf-cooked-meat/4120 "2013-11-27T11:10:36Z")

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For an item that can be made with no skill whatsoever, using tools that are available from minute 1 in the game, using a resource that is ridiculously plentiful and renewable and takes only 5 minutes to prepare, cooked …

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## [Chemisty - Water Purification tablets](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/chemisty-water-purification-tablets/4238)

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**Author:** [@Kimowich](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Kimowich)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [November 27, 2013, 10:32am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/chemisty-water-purification-tablets/4238 "2013-11-27T10:32:49Z")

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I have a little suggestion and a big one: Small one; beable to make water purification tablets from iodine. Justification: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable\_water\_purification#Chemical\_disinfection Big one: impleme…

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## ['The engine dies!' message with shopping cart](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-engine-dies-message-with-shopping-cart/4255)

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**Author:** [@moist\_zombie](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/moist_zombie)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [November 27, 2013, 9:40am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-engine-dies-message-with-shopping-cart/4255 "2013-11-27T09:40:41Z")

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Occasionally keep getting that message when dragging shopping cart :slight\_smile: Experimental version from Nov 27th, around 12:30am or so… I’m thinking it could be related to the new idling engine change, maybe?? (I lov…

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## [Recipe Menu Subgroups](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/recipe-menu-subgroups/4178)

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**Author:** [@JanBlair](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/JanBlair)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [November 27, 2013, 7:22am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/recipe-menu-subgroups/4178 "2013-11-27T07:22:47Z")

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Hello, It would seem that with the new influx of recipes, the menu has gotten a bit harder to navigate when everything has been fully unlocked. Would it be possible to add subgroups to each category? For example once yo…

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## [MOVED: Problems in the multi-language support](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/moved-problems-in-the-multi-language-support/4252)

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**Author:** [@GlyphGryph](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/GlyphGryph)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [November 27, 2013, 5:23am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/moved-problems-in-the-multi-language-support/4252 "2013-11-27T05:23:20Z")

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This topic has been moved to Translations Team Discussion. \[iurl\]http://smf.cataclysmdda.com/index.php?topic=4406.0\[/iurl\]

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## [Things to power with generators](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/things-to-power-with-generators/4211)

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**Author:** [@freezerbunny](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/freezerbunny)\
**Replies:** 27\
**Last updated:** [November 27, 2013, 4:56am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/things-to-power-with-generators/4211 "2013-11-27T04:56:36Z")

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With PR #4665, vehicles can now be idled which means charging batteries without a moving vehicle (ie. power generators). Storage batteries can also be transferred from above ground solar cells to be used to power devic…

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## [Npc crash fixing](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/npc-crash-fixing/4248)

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**Author:** [@Bonevomit](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bonevomit)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [November 27, 2013, 1:13am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/npc-crash-fixing/4248 "2013-11-27T01:13:22Z")

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Hey everybody, I’m new to the forums but I’ve been playing Cataclysm for a long time. I was playing the other day and on one of my best runs suddenly some NPC reload failed and debug messages were making the game unplay…

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## [Absolute Newb Start Character](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/absolute-newb-start-character/4240)

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**Author:** [@youtoo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/youtoo)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [November 26, 2013, 11:28pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/absolute-newb-start-character/4240 "2013-11-26T23:28:24Z")

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This is for absolute newbs. You are using the options to buff yourself. Your not THAT strong since you don’t have skills or eq yet, but its a big buff. Its good for learning game mechanics. For challenge games it blends …

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## [\[0.9-1153-g324a8a7\] Wandering undead scientists?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-9-1153-g324a8a7-wandering-undead-scientists/4242)

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**Author:** [@EkarusRyndren](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/EkarusRyndren)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [November 26, 2013, 11:14pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-9-1153-g324a8a7-wandering-undead-scientists/4242 "2013-11-26T23:14:01Z")

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So I’m 13 days into a new game and building my vehicle in a bar across from the church and there are zombie scientists, plural, wandering the streets now. This town was absolutely tiny (Three Houses, a Bar, Two Liquor St…

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## [Experimental bug reading crashes the Game](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/experimental-bug-reading-crashes-the-game/4246)

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**Author:** [@Redwallzyl](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Redwallzyl)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [November 26, 2013, 10:21pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/experimental-bug-reading-crashes-the-game/4246 "2013-11-26T22:21:06Z")

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Experimental bug reading crashes the Game.

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## [\[solved, don't read\] Welding goggles](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/solved-dont-read-welding-goggles/4245)

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**Author:** [@Oragepoilu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Oragepoilu)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [November 26, 2013, 10:02pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/solved-dont-read-welding-goggles/4245 "2013-11-26T22:02:32Z")

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Would someone be kind and add a way to get acces to some Welding goggles whith the crafting system ? Like, i can’t make a metal tank and need to scavenge cars to make charcoal, or make some part of vehicule. No luck at …

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## [Suggestion: Diversity for generic Zombies](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/suggestion-diversity-for-generic-zombies/4244)

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**Author:** [@Paquito](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Paquito)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [November 26, 2013, 7:45pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/suggestion-diversity-for-generic-zombies/4244 "2013-11-26T19:45:04Z")

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It’d be nice to add more flavor to our generic Zombies, that could effect what they drop. All the below Zombies would effectively be the generic Zombies (represented by the green ‘Z’ in ASCII), but their description and…

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## [Acid rain](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/acid-rain/4222)

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**Author:** [@Redwallzyl](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Redwallzyl)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [November 26, 2013, 7:37pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/acid-rain/4222 "2013-11-26T19:37:19Z")

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So what exactly is it sepost to be? i think it melted my plastic Jerry can and a RV stove. neither of these thing should really be destoryed that’s not how acid works. also you can put it in the Jerry can so it shouldn’t…

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## [Character creation suggestions](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/character-creation-suggestions/4170)

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**Author:** [@Marduk](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Marduk)\
**Replies:** 26\
**Last updated:** [November 26, 2013, 7:34pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/character-creation-suggestions/4170 "2013-11-26T19:34:17Z")

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Since some recent updates, spending points at character creation for skills is just such a relatively poor option that outside of challenges and RP it’s useless. Low, 1-2 level skills are extremely easy to get in game, h…

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## [Using the mouse causes game to hang after a while](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/using-the-mouse-causes-game-to-hang-after-a-while/4241)

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**Author:** [@argast](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/argast)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [November 26, 2013, 6:47pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/using-the-mouse-causes-game-to-hang-after-a-while/4241 "2013-11-26T18:47:06Z")

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After discovering that I can use the mouse to view tiles and their contents, I started using the mouse a lot and have encountered game hangs. These hangs do not occur unless I use the mouse, and it usually take a few min…

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## [Bear Alarm Clock](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bear-alarm-clock/4169)

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**Author:** [@Heclapar](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Heclapar)\
**Replies:** 15\
**Last updated:** [November 26, 2013, 6:40pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bear-alarm-clock/4169 "2013-11-26T18:40:48Z")

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\[image\] The picture speaks for itself.What should i do,try to kill it with the zheihander or will it rip my head off?

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## [Samscale's Tiles](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/samscales-tiles/2605)

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**Author:** [@Samscale1](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Samscale1)\
**Replies:** 17\
**Last updated:** [November 26, 2013, 6:35pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/samscales-tiles/2605 "2013-11-26T18:35:56Z")

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As you may or may not know I have recently been working on a tileset with some other members of the DDA forum community. We were doing well, but the thread sort of died. So I’ve dropped out and decided to go solo. This …

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