# Game Talk

**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/c/game-talk/27.md?page=462

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## [Seeing critters over long distance](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/seeing-critters-over-long-distance/4653)

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**Author:** [@infectedmochi](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/infectedmochi)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [December 29, 2013, 11:22pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/seeing-critters-over-long-distance/4653 "2013-12-29T23:22:23Z")

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It pretty weird that the character can see small critters such as squirrels and bullfrog even when they are at the outer most of his vision range. Perhaps creature’s size should determine how close the character must go …

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## [I want to be able to build chairs](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-want-to-be-able-to-build-chairs/4647)

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**Author:** [@Bonevomit](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bonevomit)\
**Replies:** 15\
**Last updated:** [December 29, 2013, 6:41pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-want-to-be-able-to-build-chairs/4647 "2013-12-29T18:41:13Z")

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Also tables

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## [\[0.9 Ma\] Integrated Toolset Missing Hammer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-9-ma-integrated-toolset-missing-hammer/4207)

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**Author:** [@Xraygoggles](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Xraygoggles)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [December 29, 2013, 6:27pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-9-ma-integrated-toolset-missing-hammer/4207 "2013-12-29T18:27:55Z")

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Although the item description for the Integrated Toolset lists it as having a hammer, in the construction menu you still need a separate hammer to deconstruct furniture.

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## [Blood as far as the eye can see](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/blood-as-far-as-the-eye-can-see/4613)

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**Author:** [@Notquiteright](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Notquiteright)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [December 29, 2013, 9:11am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/blood-as-far-as-the-eye-can-see/4613 "2013-12-29T09:11:48Z")

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So my base just got invaded by zombies. I killed them, and I already threw all there tainted meat outside and I used there clothes to make rags and leather patches. but I have no idea on how to deal with what remains… Ho…

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## [Items rolling away](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/items-rolling-away/4633)

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**Author:** [@system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/system)\
**Replies:** 16\
**Last updated:** [December 29, 2013, 7:28am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/items-rolling-away/4633 "2013-12-29T07:28:54Z")

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Not too huge of an addition, but items left on the ground outside should roll around randomly. Nothing fancy, just move like 1 tile per day or something. Also explains the old walking turrets!

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## [Game crashing item](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/game-crashing-item/4651)

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**Author:** [@Gavakis](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Gavakis)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [December 29, 2013, 5:06am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/game-crashing-item/4651 "2013-12-29T05:06:37Z")

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My version is 0.9 stable I’m in SDL, no tileset, nothin’ I’m on Windows 7 So, I don’t know how I got it, I just stack all of my bullets in once place (sometimes guns) and BLAM. \[image\] It’s very, very annoying. When…

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## [Weapon mod counts improperly tracked \[Windows\] \[0.9-2677-g549a685\]](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/weapon-mod-counts-improperly-tracked-windows-0-9-2677-g549a685/4645)

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**Author:** [@Waladil](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Waladil)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [December 28, 2013, 6:54pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/weapon-mod-counts-improperly-tracked-windows-0-9-2677-g549a685/4645 "2013-12-28T18:54:21Z")

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With the recent versions of the git, I found that removing a weapon mod would NOT increment the number of slots available. Repro’d this with multiple weapons and mods. Also found that saving & quitting entirely (simply s…

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## [Amigara fault bugged?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/amigara-fault-bugged/4642)

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**Author:** [@FyrenEyce](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/FyrenEyce)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [December 28, 2013, 3:12pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/amigara-fault-bugged/4642 "2013-12-28T15:12:26Z")

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I found the mines with the fault at the bottom with my latest charecter and after setting off the tremors… nothing happened. I figured I was just unlucky so I did it again. Then I did it about 20 more times. Zip. Zilch. …

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## [MOVED: NEO Scavenger](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/moved-neo-scavenger/4644)

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**Author:** [@GlyphGryph](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/GlyphGryph)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [December 28, 2013, 2:22pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/moved-neo-scavenger/4644 "2013-12-28T14:22:24Z")

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This topic has been moved to Other Games. \[iurl\]http://smf.cataclysmdda.com/index.php?topic=4902.0\[/iurl\]

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## [Kevlar Vests](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/kevlar-vests/4193)

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**Author:** [@Alcatraz](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Alcatraz)\
**Replies:** 24\
**Last updated:** [December 28, 2013, 10:55am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/kevlar-vests/4193 "2013-12-28T10:55:37Z")

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In the game there is one kind of Kevlar vest. Also, you repair them with Kevlar plates, which is unreal because you have to repair them with Kevlar fabric and ceramic plates. IRL there are different kinds of vests and so…

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## [\[Build .9, Stable release\] Combination Bugs/Balance Issues](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/build-9-stable-release-combination-bugs-balance-issues/4637)

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**Author:** [@Nappist](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Nappist)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [December 27, 2013, 7:33pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/build-9-stable-release-combination-bugs-balance-issues/4637 "2013-12-27T19:33:29Z")

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\[spoiler\]Fault only spawns horrors when you stand next to it. It tries to spawn all of them on top of you, which fails, and you only get the single. Having lots of problem with stacked zombies attempting to revive/spawn …

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## [\[Build .9-2671-g65b2436\] Disappearing weapon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/build-9-2671-g65b2436-disappearing-weapon/4636)

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**Author:** [@RusticWolf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/RusticWolf)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [December 27, 2013, 7:17pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/build-9-2671-g65b2436-disappearing-weapon/4636 "2013-12-27T19:17:15Z")

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Build .9-2671-g65b2436 Curses (fairly sure, tiles were on by default but was still ASCII) Win 7 Not sure if this was reported already, but a quick glance through the top pages didn’t show anything. Was doing combat i…

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## [Turretception](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/turretception/4593)

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**Author:** [@Blaze](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Blaze)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [December 27, 2013, 9:14am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/turretception/4593 "2013-12-27T09:14:28Z")

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Hack into Military Bunker Activate EMP grenade Throw EMP grenade Collect drops Obtain inactive turrets. Probably should remove inactive turrets from turret drops.

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## [Fairly certain zombears are bugged](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/fairly-certain-zombears-are-bugged/4625)

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**Author:** [@Coyote](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Coyote)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [December 27, 2013, 9:11am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/fairly-certain-zombears-are-bugged/4625 "2013-12-27T09:11:41Z")

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Hey guys. I forgot to grab the debug file both times, and it’s always a straight CTD, but zombears seem to consistently crash my game. I’ll see if I can reproduce it so I can throw up a proper report for y’all. Side not…

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## [Why are vehicles out of gas?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/why-are-vehicles-out-of-gas/4619)

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**Author:** [@vbmark](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/vbmark)\
**Replies:** 21\
**Last updated:** [December 27, 2013, 9:04am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/why-are-vehicles-out-of-gas/4619 "2013-12-27T09:04:40Z")

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I am curious about what the story is behind why the all the vehicles are out or almost completely out of gas. Why do I not come across any with a full tank?

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## [New car parts and crafting](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/new-car-parts-and-crafting/4631)

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**Author:** [@General\_Patton](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/General_Patton)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [December 27, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/new-car-parts-and-crafting/4631 "2013-12-27T03:08:45Z")

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Could we get some components for engines and recipes to disassemble/craft them? Also, don’t modern cars have quite a bit of computer stuff in them, micromanaging the engine and stuff? We could add a few tiers of Engine M…

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## [Merry Chistmas](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/merry-chistmas/4615)

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**Author:** [@StopSignal](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/StopSignal)\
**Replies:** 20\
**Last updated:** [December 26, 2013, 11:50pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/merry-chistmas/4615 "2013-12-26T23:50:56Z")

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Just came back a second to say you, merry christmas. Hope you get the best of luck, folks.

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## [Can someone explain to me how to add new buildings?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-someone-explain-to-me-how-to-add-new-buildings/4597)

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**Author:** [@desrik](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/desrik)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [December 26, 2013, 7:49pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-someone-explain-to-me-how-to-add-new-buildings/4597 "2013-12-26T19:49:26Z")

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I tried by example, but I keep getting DEBUG messages. \_north not found. Cycles for each direction, sometimes multiple errors per direction. I was adding to mapgen\_functions.cpp and was basically using the abandoned stor…

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## [\[Build #455\] Cataclysm simply won't work!](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/build-455-cataclysm-simply-wont-work/4628)

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**Author:** [@Sidower](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Sidower)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [December 26, 2013, 5:32pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/build-455-cataclysm-simply-wont-work/4628 "2013-12-26T17:32:28Z")

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\[Build #455 - Dec 26, 2013 1:08:34 AM\] \[Windows Graphical Experimental Build\] \[Windows XP\] Hello, I have stopped playing cataclysm for a while but today I decided to return to it. I downloaded a the Build #455 and unz…

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## [Experimental 0.9-2326-g708d1bb - M203 crashes game when fired](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/experimental-0-9-2326-g708d1bb-m203-crashes-game-when-fired/4604)

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**Author:** [@DG123](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DG123)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [December 26, 2013, 5:11pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/experimental-0-9-2326-g708d1bb-m203-crashes-game-when-fired/4604 "2013-12-26T17:11:35Z")

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When I try to shoot my M203 attached to my G3 rifle, the game crashes to desktop. So far it’s done it with 40mm frag rounds and 40mm incendiary. Every single time. Help? I’m using Raga’s tileset right now if that matt…

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## [(A)pply tool to item(s) on the ground](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-pply-tool-to-item-s-on-the-ground/4611)

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**Author:** [@YuriT](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/YuriT)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [December 25, 2013, 7:24pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-pply-tool-to-item-s-on-the-ground/4611 "2013-12-25T19:24:46Z")

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When choosing tool(i.e. pocket knife)-\>(a)pply, game goes to inventory. Would be really helpful to also see items on the ground at this point. Or even better, going to advanced inventory so that one does not have to pick…

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## [Quiver, how to load it with arrows?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/quiver-how-to-load-it-with-arrows/3094)

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**Author:** [@iamofage](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/iamofage)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [December 25, 2013, 4:17pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/quiver-how-to-load-it-with-arrows/3094 "2013-12-25T16:17:38Z")

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Hi, I know this is silly, but I’ve been trying to reload, apply, drop, wear and wield my arrows into my quiver with no result. It says it can hold up to 20 arrows, so I am guessing it acts as a container like a sewing ki…

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## [No wonder its been so easy!](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/no-wonder-its-been-so-easy/4577)

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**Author:** [@Ruxe](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ruxe)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [December 25, 2013, 1:10pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/no-wonder-its-been-so-easy/4577 "2013-12-25T13:10:34Z")

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Don’t recall seeing anything about this, but apparently setting city size to 1 in the world generator produces no town/city like structures at all. I’ve created at least six worlds now, used “Debug” to reveal the map, an…

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## [FULL\_SCREEN\_HEIGHT behavior](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/full-screen-height-behavior/4617)

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**Author:** [@LazyCat-rus](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/LazyCat-rus)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [December 25, 2013, 8:21am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/full-screen-height-behavior/4617 "2013-12-25T08:21:04Z")

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If i have even term height, full\_screen\_height will be 24 And if i have odd term height, full\_screen\_height will be 25 244 =\> 24 245 =\> 25 Why this var act like that?

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## [Staying in the inventory screen](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/staying-in-the-inventory-screen/4571)

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**Author:** [@vbmark](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/vbmark)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [December 24, 2013, 12:10pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/staying-in-the-inventory-screen/4571 "2013-12-24T12:10:12Z")

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How can I perform multiple actions in the inventory screen without being dropped back into the main play screen each time? For example, if I want to drop something then wear something I have to go back in each time, or …

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## [\[Exp 416\] Zombie Soldier Loot Pinatas](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/exp-416-zombie-soldier-loot-pinatas/4574)

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**Author:** [@Dominae](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Dominae)\
**Replies:** 13\
**Last updated:** [December 24, 2013, 11:32am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/exp-416-zombie-soldier-loot-pinatas/4574 "2013-12-24T11:32:29Z")

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Hey, did something change with the item drops on Zombie Soldiers recently? I killed three in different locations (one crash site, one randomly in a city, one just now in a basement) and they’re sporting a bunker worth o…

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## [Petrol station expansion](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/petrol-station-expansion/4556)

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**Author:** [@ArcticHuntsman](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ArcticHuntsman)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [December 24, 2013, 5:22am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/petrol-station-expansion/4556 "2013-12-24T05:22:29Z")

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Here is Australia we have goods locked up outside stations such has firewood, large water containers and gas. Any other ideas for stations welcomed in this thread.

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## [Urban Nightmare run](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/urban-nightmare-run/4528)

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**Author:** [@asbestosbill](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/asbestosbill)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [December 23, 2013, 11:57pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/urban-nightmare-run/4528 "2013-12-23T23:57:51Z")

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I wanted to try something different, so I turned city size to 25 (max) as well as starting points (turns out I severely overestimated the difficulty of a big city; I should have turned the spawn rate up too). It was inte…

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## [\[.8\] Underslung Shotgun/M203 Crash](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/8-underslung-shotgun-m203-crash/3315)

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**Author:** [@Rorick](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rorick)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [December 23, 2013, 9:03pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/8-underslung-shotgun-m203-crash/3315 "2013-12-23T21:03:55Z")

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I’m having an issue that causes a crash on the stable .8 release. I have a rifle and I’ve attached a M203 to said rifle, I will load it, press ‘F’ to change fire modes to it and then encounter a crash upon attempting to …

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## [Blank body causing my death?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/blank-body-causing-my-death/4495)

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**Author:** [@system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/system)\
**Replies:** 24\
**Last updated:** [December 23, 2013, 8:09pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/blank-body-causing-my-death/4495 "2013-12-23T20:09:15Z")

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So I was sitting in my walled off bridge turret filled base and a blank body must’ve found its way in and killed me… I woke up and the body was right next to me and in the next turn I was dead. Devs? What sort of funny…

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