# Game Talk

**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/c/game-talk/27.md?page=457

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## [Larger nuclear craters](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/larger-nuclear-craters/4853)

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**Author:** [@TheGrifter](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheGrifter)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [January 25, 2014, 5:00pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/larger-nuclear-craters/4853 "2014-01-25T17:00:56Z")

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So there are all these nuclear silos, and you can fire off rockets… But they only leave a 5X5 crater. That’s pathetic for a nuke. That’s like, a few city blocks. Now that we have size sixteen cities, I want to see reall…

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## [Random Crashing 0.9](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/random-crashing-0-9/3908)

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**Author:** [@system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/system)\
**Replies:** 17\
**Last updated:** [January 25, 2014, 4:37pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/random-crashing-0-9/3908 "2014-01-25T16:37:56Z")

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Since I haven’t found a thread that describes this issue, I will just open one. Whenever I play, the game sometimes randomly closes itself. No error message, no framerate drop or something. It just closes. I have no ide…

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## [0.9-3447-gf775b97 not sure if bug or partially implemented NPC relations?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-9-3447-gf775b97-not-sure-if-bug-or-partially-implemented-npc-relations/4831)

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**Author:** [@HunterAlpha1](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/HunterAlpha1)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [January 25, 2014, 9:24am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-9-3447-gf775b97-not-sure-if-bug-or-partially-implemented-npc-relations/4831 "2014-01-25T09:24:01Z")

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i’m playing version… i already typed the whole damn thing out so read the thread title. so i was playing with NPCs turned on as i usually do on the off chance that the experimental i downloaded just happens to be the on…

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## [Pathogen E062? \[SPOILERS\]](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/pathogen-e062-spoilers/4846)

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**Author:** [@John\_Candlebury](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/John_Candlebury)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [January 25, 2014, 8:34am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/pathogen-e062-spoilers/4846 "2014-01-25T08:34:50Z")

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I was exploring a lab yesterday and found a note Indicating that PE062 can “cure” (sounds evil) certain variants of blob infection. Now it seems that the rest of the PE series are mutagens and the purifier, and those wor…

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## [More ambiguous stats](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/more-ambiguous-stats/4845)

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**Author:** [@Nopkar](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Nopkar)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [January 25, 2014, 8:26am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/more-ambiguous-stats/4845 "2014-01-25T08:26:58Z")

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This suggestion is for a more immersive gameplay experience by changing the visual, static values of items into a more interpretive value. This blurs the lines of Good/better/best and leaves room for a more immersive ex…

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## [A proposal for implementing multistory buildings using existing features](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-proposal-for-implementing-multistory-buildings-using-existing-features/4818)

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**Author:** [@ClockworkZombie](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ClockworkZombie)\
**Replies:** 16\
**Last updated:** [January 24, 2014, 1:56pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-proposal-for-implementing-multistory-buildings-using-existing-features/4818 "2014-01-24T13:56:49Z")

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To start off- I’ve done a bit of searching, but wasn’t able to find too much information on earlier conversations about z-levels, multistory buildings, etc. I don’t know how controversial this topic is or how much effor…

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## [Crash on exit Build #630 (Jan 22, 2014 8:07:18 AM)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crash-on-exit-build-630-jan-22-2014-8-07-18-am/4838)

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**Author:** [@stk2008](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/stk2008)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [January 24, 2014, 12:51pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crash-on-exit-build-630-jan-22-2014-8-07-18-am/4838 "2014-01-24T12:51:58Z")

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Hi all I just tested this build and when I Quit the game from main menu it gives an error in the cataclysm.EXE all so when I save and it goes back to main menu then press load and try to load same save it crashes to des…

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## [Favorite base](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/favorite-base/2994)

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**Author:** [@Frostwood](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Frostwood)\
**Replies:** 96\
**Last updated:** [January 24, 2014, 8:53am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/favorite-base/2994 "2014-01-24T08:53:45Z")

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What’s your top three favorite base locations, when choosing a location to put your loot? Mine are: 1)Sewage treatment plant:console provides light for reading, you can get limitless water from sewage, and they are usu…

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## [I need to tinkle](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-need-to-tinkle/4819)

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**Author:** [@fishy1234555](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/fishy1234555)\
**Replies:** 14\
**Last updated:** [January 24, 2014, 1:47am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-need-to-tinkle/4819 "2014-01-24T01:47:21Z")

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We eat and drink and day in cata everyday and never use the restroom. I think needing to take a crap would add an interesting survival aspect. As would bathing in the river, but i digress. Somebody should make bathrooms …

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## [Does weight affect combat?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/does-weight-affect-combat/4830)

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**Author:** [@Notquiteright](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Notquiteright)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [January 23, 2014, 11:23pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/does-weight-affect-combat/4830 "2014-01-23T23:23:44Z")

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Lets say I have an object that is triple the weight of another object, but this object have a negative to hit ratio and lower bash. Would it do more damage if I manage to hit something with it then if I used the other ob…

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## [Stealth & sneaking](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stealth-sneaking/4832)

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**Author:** [@HunterAlpha1](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/HunterAlpha1)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [January 23, 2014, 11:14pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stealth-sneaking/4832 "2014-01-23T23:14:51Z")

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so i’ve seen the subject of implementing stealth and sneaking into the game come up from time to time, and how it could be done. well, i have discovered a game called Unreal World, which has it pretty well. http://z3.i…

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## [Kit creator](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/kit-creator/4814)

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**Author:** [@StopSignal](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/StopSignal)\
**Replies:** 14\
**Last updated:** [January 23, 2014, 3:09pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/kit-creator/4814 "2014-01-23T15:09:06Z")

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Well, as we all know, we have the professions, the kits at the start of the game. You can make your own kits, but… every update more and more items get added, and it is a bit hard to keep up with all the json codes. It w…

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## [E-books](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/e-books/4833)

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**Author:** [@SpaniardSlayer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/SpaniardSlayer)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [January 23, 2014, 2:00pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/e-books/4833 "2014-01-23T14:00:10Z")

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Since the game is in the future, it seems kind of weird how you still have to carry around physical books. I suggest adding some kind of scanner item that scans a specified book in your inventory and makes it available t…

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## [Irradiated Foods?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/irradiated-foods/4093)

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**Author:** [@EkarusRyndren](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/EkarusRyndren)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [January 23, 2014, 7:10am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/irradiated-foods/4093 "2014-01-23T07:10:46Z")

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I’m something of a poor man so I don’t have access to even middle-class stuff… Can anyone confirm how common irradiated foods are? For preservation I mean. It might be nice to have access to irradiated foods (at a less c…

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## ["-1" professions](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/1-professions/4784)

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**Author:** [@Bonevomit](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bonevomit)\
**Replies:** 19\
**Last updated:** [January 23, 2014, 12:46am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/1-professions/4784 "2014-01-23T00:46:37Z")

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I like that the profession system is now more balanced in the experimental version but it’s still pretty problematic. I get the “-2” professions like Bad Android(permanent flaws) and Tweaker(really rough start) as chall…

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## [A few questions about vehicle construction](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-few-questions-about-vehicle-construction/4791)

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**Author:** [@DG123](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DG123)\
**Replies:** 27\
**Last updated:** [January 23, 2014, 12:34am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-few-questions-about-vehicle-construction/4791 "2014-01-23T00:34:07Z")

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What are the pros and cons of the “heavy duty” frames you can build now? Do they slow down the vehicle while making it take less collision damage? That would be my guess. Would there be a practical advantage to maki…

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## [Fruits are not veggy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/fruits-are-not-veggy/4826)

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**Author:** [@Notquiteright](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Notquiteright)\
**Replies:** 13\
**Last updated:** [January 23, 2014, 12:24am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/fruits-are-not-veggy/4826 "2014-01-23T00:24:43Z")

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So why do I get the message that my stomach won’t be happy when I eat a fruit-matter item like a strawberry? I have version 0.9-3499-g72a1f11 Also despite the message I don’t actually get any negative moral modifiers f…

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## [0.9-3223-g0e04535 Exiting vehicle while dragging shopping cart causes debug msg](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-9-3223-g0e04535-exiting-vehicle-while-dragging-shopping-cart-causes-debug-msg/4829)

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**Author:** [@Sirent\_Odour](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Sirent_Odour)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [January 22, 2014, 11:47pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-9-3223-g0e04535-exiting-vehicle-while-dragging-shopping-cart-causes-debug-msg/4829 "2014-01-22T23:47:33Z")

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This is what happens when i enter a car’s trunk while dragging my cart, then try to exit into the space where the cart is sitting: \[URL=https://imageshack.com/i/jwi5xpp\]\[image\]\[/URL\]

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## [.](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/topic/4822)

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**Author:** [@system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/system)\
**Replies:** 22\
**Last updated:** [January 22, 2014, 10:05pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/topic/4822 "2014-01-22T22:05:34Z")

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## [The 55 gallon barell puzzle](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-55-gallon-barell-puzzle/4780)

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**Author:** [@Ferodaktyl](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ferodaktyl)\
**Replies:** 27\
**Last updated:** [January 22, 2014, 1:00pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-55-gallon-barell-puzzle/4780 "2014-01-22T13:00:42Z")

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Well, i found one of this and i thought “Great, i’ll fill it with water and live forever”. So i filled it with water. Now, how do i get the water out of it ? :stuck\_out\_tongue: (hint: it’s too heavy to be handled)

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## [Dead Body Overhaul](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/dead-body-overhaul/4692)

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**Author:** [@ClaytonRISING](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ClaytonRISING)\
**Replies:** 56\
**Last updated:** [January 22, 2014, 12:40pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/dead-body-overhaul/4692 "2014-01-22T12:40:11Z")

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I’ve been thinking about this for a while and have slowly been fleshing it out…kinda. The only dead bodies seen around are either scientists, soldiers or drug-dealers. While this is an interesting feature, it seems rath…

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## [Deadchat!](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/deadchat/4820)

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**Author:** [@system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/system)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [January 22, 2014, 11:40am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/deadchat/4820 "2014-01-22T11:40:31Z")

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Or someone needs a chatbot to tell us when/how people have died! Basically you know how elona has the thing where it tells you how people are dying and stuff? I want dat.

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## [Do you play with tileset or ASCII and why?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-you-play-with-tileset-or-ascii-and-why/4751)

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**Author:** [@CIB](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/CIB)\
**Replies:** 39\
**Last updated:** [January 22, 2014, 1:30am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-you-play-with-tileset-or-ascii-and-why/4751 "2014-01-22T01:30:20Z")

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Having a discussion on another game forum(non-roguelike), and I’m currently having to argue that some people actually do prefer ASCII to more expressive alternatives like a tileset. I know that these people exist for a f…

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## [Modify recipe-from-book mechanic](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/modify-recipe-from-book-mechanic/4783)

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**Author:** [@Waladil](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Waladil)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [January 21, 2014, 11:13pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/modify-recipe-from-book-mechanic/4783 "2014-01-21T23:13:11Z")

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So learning recipes now can be a total PITA. Especially the higher level ones; there are tons of them (I’m looking at you, lab journals with EVERY MUTAGEN AND SERUM), each individual attempt takes a notable amount of tim…

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## [Help with JSON editing?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/help-with-json-editing/4811)

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**Author:** [@The\_Lone\_Badger](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/The_Lone_Badger)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [January 21, 2014, 8:57pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/help-with-json-editing/4811 "2014-01-21T20:57:05Z")

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I’m trying to get started on editing JSONs, and while most of it is self-explanatory sometimes I just can’t figure it out. Two from my early explorations into weapon creation: How do you control how much noise it make…

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## [Woo! random suggestion!](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/woo-random-suggestion/4768)

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**Author:** [@superninjakiwi](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/superninjakiwi)\
**Replies:** 27\
**Last updated:** [January 21, 2014, 8:44pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/woo-random-suggestion/4768 "2014-01-21T20:44:00Z")

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Please make brooms move items from one square to another when used, this would be good for both cleaning up after fighting a horde of creatures and adding functionality to an item that is essentially just a crafting comp…

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## [Performance fixes](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/performance-fixes/4805)

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**Author:** [@JohnieRWilkins](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/JohnieRWilkins)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [January 21, 2014, 8:28pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/performance-fixes/4805 "2014-01-21T20:28:05Z")

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My game lags badly sometimes when huge quantities of items are present. The only times when huge quantities of items are present are when I stash a bunch of stuff or burn a house down. Solution: Dimensional Stasis Unit …

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## [Live chat](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/live-chat/4815)

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**Author:** [@HunterAlpha1](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/HunterAlpha1)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [January 21, 2014, 7:43am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/live-chat/4815 "2014-01-21T07:43:20Z")

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this isn’t a suggestion for the game so much as for the forum itself; why not add a live chatroom so we can discuss the game LIVE?

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## [The ultimate board](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-ultimate-board/4810)

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**Author:** [@Logrin](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Logrin)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [January 20, 2014, 7:07pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-ultimate-board/4810 "2014-01-20T19:07:24Z")

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Was leafing through the vehicle\_parts Json to see if I wanted HD boards hard enough to give up on quarterpanels. During my sifting I found an extra zero. },{ “type” : “vehicle\_part”, “id” : “board\_vertical”, “name” :…

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## [Vehicleception - A vehicle storage bay](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vehicleception-a-vehicle-storage-bay/4806)

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**Author:** [@Seranikan](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Seranikan)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [January 20, 2014, 2:25pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vehicleception-a-vehicle-storage-bay/4806 "2014-01-20T14:25:23Z")

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Everyone knows it is difficult to navigate a city in a large vehicle. I am aware that many of you set up a permanent base and then build a fast-moving, slim vehicle alongside a more bulky one. I myself quite enjoy the no…

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