# Game Talk

**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/c/game-talk/27.md?page=401

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## [Dirty Hacks Pack. Edition #5](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/dirty-hacks-pack-edition-5/6949)

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**Author:** [@Reaper](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Reaper)\
**Replies:** 55\
**Last updated:** [September 3, 2014, 8:47pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/dirty-hacks-pack-edition-5/6949 "2014-09-03T20:47:59Z")

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Branch: https://github.com/Reaper42/Cataclysm-DDA/tree/mod Windows build: http://www.filedropper.com/cataclysm-tiles\_4 DLLs : http://46.102.243.119/public/CDDA-deps.zip Included mods: http://smf.cataclysmdda.com/inde…

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## [Shoulder Pads (2 images)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/shoulder-pads-2-images/7251)

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**Author:** [@12doze12](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/12doze12)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [September 3, 2014, 8:31pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/shoulder-pads-2-images/7251 "2014-09-03T20:31:23Z")

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Sorry for using images but I’m not sure this is what you call them, english is not my language :smiley: I’m not sure if this is what you call them but I’ve searched the wiki and didn’t find any item that goes on your sh…

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## [A Few Typos](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-few-typos/6999)

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**Author:** [@JazzGuru](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/JazzGuru)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [September 3, 2014, 4:30pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-few-typos/6999 "2014-09-03T16:30:42Z")

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Hi guys, I’ve found a few typos in-game just recently, and KA101 has suggested that I list these through GitHub, but seeing as I will have to register for that, I thought I would post them here for now, so that they can…

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## [A real time build](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-real-time-build/7214)

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**Author:** [@StopSignal](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/StopSignal)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [September 3, 2014, 11:40am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-real-time-build/7214 "2014-09-03T11:40:43Z")

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I heard, a long time ago, about a mighty cataclysm build special version that was made for a fellow user who asked for it, and it was in real time rather than turns. Is there a way for me to check it? Thanks!

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## [Crash when attempting to "get" items on an empty tile](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crash-when-attempting-to-get-items-on-an-empty-tile/7243)

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**Author:** [@Whitelight](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Whitelight)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [September 3, 2014, 4:49am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crash-when-attempting-to-get-items-on-an-empty-tile/7243 "2014-09-03T04:49:10Z")

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I was trying various experimentals to see when an error with looting stuff from vehicles began to occur and i stumbled upon another bug apparently. Specifically, if I attempt to “get” items on a tile with nothing on it …

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## [Crash with Experimental 2018](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crash-with-experimental-2018/7241)

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**Author:** [@JazzGuru](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/JazzGuru)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [September 3, 2014, 4:44am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crash-with-experimental-2018/7241 "2014-09-03T04:44:42Z")

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Hi, I have been playing the latest experimental build (2018) of today (September 2nd) and have encountered a hard game crash. All you have to do to make this happen is peek through a window, either with the curtains clo…

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## [UPS powered guns](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ups-powered-guns/7221)

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**Author:** [@123456789](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/123456789)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [September 2, 2014, 10:37pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ups-powered-guns/7221 "2014-09-02T22:37:46Z")

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I found a fusion gun in the bottom of a science lab. Pretty cool, but everytime I shot something, it exploded into flames. A bit annoying. So next I made a charge rifle. Also pretty cool, but does very low damage unless …

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## [Future of humans in Cataclysm DDA](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/future-of-humans-in-cataclysm-dda/7238)

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**Author:** [@Thors\_Hammer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Thors_Hammer)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [September 2, 2014, 10:16pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/future-of-humans-in-cataclysm-dda/7238 "2014-09-02T22:16:45Z")

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What I’m really missing is a reason for the players (and the humans) to survive in this cataclysmic world. I don’t mean “killing a zombie from the seventh dimension with a black hole cannon” but a simple reason to live …

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## [Agitated Sleep?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/agitated-sleep/7239)

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**Author:** [@12doze12](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/12doze12)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [September 2, 2014, 9:47pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/agitated-sleep/7239 "2014-09-02T21:47:24Z")

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Something that always bothered me in Cataclysm DDA is that every time I wake up, at least most of the time I wake up Very hungry and Very thirsty and to me that doesn’t make much sense especially because I always go to s…

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## [That moment](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/that-moment/6417)

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**Author:** [@bahihs](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/bahihs)\
**Replies:** 109\
**Last updated:** [September 2, 2014, 8:51pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/that-moment/6417 "2014-09-02T20:51:36Z")

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Greetings forum dwellers, The purpose of this thread is to share some crazy, strange, funny, epic, etc. moments in the game which you feel defines Cataclysm. The rule is it must be in the form: “That moment…” Here are …

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## [Meat is not rotten before cooking but rotten after cooking](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/meat-is-not-rotten-before-cooking-but-rotten-after-cooking/7169)

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**Author:** [@DG123](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DG123)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [September 2, 2014, 7:20pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/meat-is-not-rotten-before-cooking-but-rotten-after-cooking/7169 "2014-09-02T19:20:25Z")

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Any idea what’s going on here? Now that I’m using the latest experimental (as of yesterday) whenever I try to make a “cooked meat” it comes out rotten. I can eat the raw meat just fine and if I make something else like …

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## [Debug Info Spam in the message log](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/debug-info-spam-in-the-message-log/7225)

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**Author:** [@DigitalPhantom](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DigitalPhantom)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [September 2, 2014, 10:16am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/debug-info-spam-in-the-message-log/7225 "2014-09-02T10:16:25Z")

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Version : 0.A-2006 So…I had a char tooling along and minding his own business, when suddenly : SPAM! Of the debug variety… The course of events went something like this : I found a guy, he threatened me. I ran away (…

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## [Tiles](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tiles/7231)

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**Author:** [@Thors\_Hammer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Thors_Hammer)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [September 2, 2014, 4:31am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tiles/7231 "2014-09-02T04:31:03Z")

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Hi, I’m playing Deon’s Tileset and now that the experimental builds grows it became more and more difficult to identify items or monsters. It seems to me, that every new item or zombie got a “#”. there is a tile for boo…

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## [Sup, new guy here](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/sup-new-guy-here/7145)

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**Author:** [@X-PLODE](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/X-PLODE)\
**Replies:** 27\
**Last updated:** [September 2, 2014, 3:49am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/sup-new-guy-here/7145 "2014-09-02T03:49:09Z")

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Hello guys, i’m new. I’ve been playing for about 6 days now, using the stable 0.A version. All settings are default and no NPC’s since i heard they were bugged and didn’t want any shenanigans as a noob player. I died …

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## [Idea: DF-esque (semi-)randomly generated characteristics](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/idea-df-esque-semi-randomly-generated-characteristics/7186)

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**Author:** [@Snaaty](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Snaaty)\
**Replies:** 20\
**Last updated:** [September 2, 2014, 12:26am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/idea-df-esque-semi-randomly-generated-characteristics/7186 "2014-09-02T00:26:13Z")

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Hello Forum, in the current state of this awesome game we get to know very little about what our character actually looks like. Now, I propose, why not make a system that transfers many values (e.g.: Strength 14) int…

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## [Crash when loading save](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crash-when-loading-save/7229)

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**Author:** [@Beanchilla](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Beanchilla)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [September 1, 2014, 11:25pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crash-when-loading-save/7229 "2014-09-01T23:25:37Z")

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I have my save on dropbox and can be accessed here. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/311snviwlii2vbi/AADKUzDnG6dR0h7Fv3BdJSSXa?dl=0 My entire game is actually backed up on Dropbox and can be viewed here for those interested. …

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## [The ability to drag bodies](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-ability-to-drag-bodies/7230)

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**Author:** [@Beanchilla](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Beanchilla)\
**Replies:** 15\
**Last updated:** [September 1, 2014, 11:14pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-ability-to-drag-bodies/7230 "2014-09-01T23:14:30Z")

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While this wouldn’t add a huge amount to the game I think it would add to immersion. Maybe the ability to drag knocked out zombies into a room and then set traps with them.

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## [Vehicle parts that cause tile changes](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vehicle-parts-that-cause-tile-changes/7235)

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**Author:** [@KuntaStillSingle](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KuntaStillSingle)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [September 1, 2014, 11:08pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vehicle-parts-that-cause-tile-changes/7235 "2014-09-01T23:08:47Z")

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For example a part that when active creates mound of dirt underneath it as it moves along across tiles (plow), but slows a vehicle significantly (or maybe just adds a ridiculous amount of weight) A part that when active …

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## [Welder alternative that uses gasoline](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/welder-alternative-that-uses-gasoline/7223)

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**Author:** [@12doze12](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/12doze12)\
**Replies:** 17\
**Last updated:** [September 1, 2014, 8:47pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/welder-alternative-that-uses-gasoline/7223 "2014-09-01T20:47:08Z")

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Today I was making the charcoal kiln to make charcoal for my delicious smoke meat and i was astounished by the amount of charges of battery my makeshift welder required to make it so my question is, is there and alternat…

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## [What's Happening in YOUR Randomly-generated Apocalypse?: Vibrator derail](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/whats-happening-in-your-randomly-generated-apocalypse-vibrator-derail/6274)

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**Author:** [@Kyriolexical\_Dino](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Kyriolexical_Dino)\
**Replies:** 88\
**Last updated:** [September 1, 2014, 4:34pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/whats-happening-in-your-randomly-generated-apocalypse-vibrator-derail/6274 "2014-09-01T16:34:08Z")

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So yeah, was lab raiding trying to find a cvd machine finale (good luck for me lol). Ended up finding something MUCH BETTER though. \[spoiler\]\[image\]\[/spoiler\] When was this merged and who was the amazing fellow that to…

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## [Question on vehicle frames](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/question-on-vehicle-frames/7232)

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**Author:** [@Zrau](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Zrau)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [September 1, 2014, 3:07pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/question-on-vehicle-frames/7232 "2014-09-01T15:07:26Z")

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Been messing about with replacing broken frames on a vehicle. When you add a new frame piece you can select between various shapes but there is only two L shaped corner types so the frame piece for an upper-left corner o…

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## [I have a problem](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-have-a-problem/7226)

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**Author:** [@mineforce](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/mineforce)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [September 1, 2014, 2:51pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-have-a-problem/7226 "2014-09-01T14:51:57Z")

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I randomly mutated and got the trait “thinned skin” while killing everything in a fema camp. Also when I open up the craft menu MOST OF THE TIME it still crash.

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## [How do mutation dreams and thresholds work?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-do-mutation-dreams-and-thresholds-work/7222)

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**Author:** [@SteelBlueWolf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/SteelBlueWolf)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [September 1, 2014, 8:44am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-do-mutation-dreams-and-thresholds-work/7222 "2014-09-01T08:44:36Z")

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How do mutation dreams work? On the wiki it says that you have to reach third-tier mutation dreams to cross a threshold but doesn’t go into specifics. Is more mutagenic serum required to increase mutation dream tier? Wil…

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## [A few vehicle parts i'd love to see added](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-few-vehicle-parts-id-love-to-see-added/7055)

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**Author:** [@Solusphere](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Solusphere)\
**Replies:** 36\
**Last updated:** [September 1, 2014, 3:01am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-few-vehicle-parts-id-love-to-see-added/7055 "2014-09-01T03:01:48Z")

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The vehicle construction system is one of my favourite things in cataclysm, and after playing with it for quite a few hours over multiple characters, I have some ideas for some things which I think wouldn’t be too hard t…

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## [I found a thing](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-found-a-thing/7215)

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**Author:** [@bubbadoo14](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/bubbadoo14)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [September 1, 2014, 12:40am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-found-a-thing/7215 "2014-09-01T00:40:34Z")

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I was looking at a website called slant which is a crowdsourced guide to the best software/gadgets/etc. and there is a section for PC games, and look what I found! http://www.slant.co/topics/1743/viewpoints/4/~what-are-t…

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## [Ammo making](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ammo-making/7224)

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**Author:** [@anon5075822](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/anon5075822)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [August 31, 2014, 10:56pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ammo-making/7224 "2014-08-31T22:56:13Z")

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Just when that one moment when your out of ammo…Hmm…

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## [Fast Learner with trivial skill grinding (experimental)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/fast-learner-with-trivial-skill-grinding-experimental/7184)

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**Author:** [@Whitelight](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Whitelight)\
**Replies:** 13\
**Last updated:** [August 31, 2014, 10:19pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/fast-learner-with-trivial-skill-grinding-experimental/7184 "2014-08-31T22:19:53Z")

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So I am not sure if this is unique to the experiemental or in the current stable, but since the last time I played I have noticed that skills now can not be trained very high by doing things that become “trivial” at a ce…

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## [Power overwhelming](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/power-overwhelming/7219)

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**Author:** [@terroroid](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/terroroid)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [August 31, 2014, 11:20am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/power-overwhelming/7219 "2014-08-31T11:20:23Z")

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cataclysmdda-0.A-1996 Windows starter When I play my game last night, my Bionic power capacity is 1000+! When I play this morning, it is now 62500! I dont change versions since last night. I think it multiplied by 100…

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## [Melee/force shields](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/melee-force-shields/7198)

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**Author:** [@pingpong](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/pingpong)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [August 31, 2014, 8:56am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/melee-force-shields/7198 "2014-08-31T08:56:55Z")

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I’m reminded of the katana in E.Y.E. Divine Cybermancy. Quite literally it used energy to generate a bullet shield, that ran out, and it could still be used like a melee weapon, including to parry. We already have A. UPS…

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## [My Saves Aren't Working Right](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/my-saves-arent-working-right/7217)

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**Author:** [@Sneak](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Sneak)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [August 31, 2014, 5:55am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/my-saves-arent-working-right/7217 "2014-08-31T05:55:50Z")

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Is there something wrong with saves in Cataclysm? I’ve gotten this problem with the latest stable and experimental versions. What happens is that if I save the game and then die or delete the world, then quit the game an…

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