# Game Talk

**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/c/game-talk/27.md?page=39

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## [Placing/Dropping bags in bicycle basket or cars](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/placing-dropping-bags-in-bicycle-basket-or-cars/26881)

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**Author:** [@OnaiChan](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/OnaiChan)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [August 21, 2021, 2:28am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/placing-dropping-bags-in-bicycle-basket-or-cars/26881 "2021-08-21T02:28:46Z")

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I don’t know if its just me or the game but it seems that I cannot load or drop bags, specifically MOLE ( bc I used it), in the bicycle basket and anywhere inside a car. I used a car and I thought that if I drop a bag i…

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## [Common cold doesn't seem right](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/common-cold-doesnt-seem-right/26864)

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**Author:** [@Shieldwall](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Shieldwall)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [August 21, 2021, 12:20am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/common-cold-doesnt-seem-right/26864 "2021-08-21T00:20:21Z")

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How long does it take for the common cold to pass? My character has been sick for like 5 days already and there’s no indication that they get any better. What the actual hell? I get common cold irl on average every other…

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## [Some weirdness in experimental (2021-08-15...)?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/some-weirdness-in-experimental-2021-08-15/26850)

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**Author:** [@do99z](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/do99z)\
**Replies:** 16\
**Last updated:** [August 20, 2021, 10:31pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/some-weirdness-in-experimental-2021-08-15/26850 "2021-08-20T22:31:34Z")

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Give a shout if you noticed it in your playing as well: I had Tailoring 5 (25%) - read a book to boost to lvl 6 - Book is marked as Tailoring 6 (6) and marks it as yellow (only good for recipes), but the skill list is…

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## [Books changed again?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/books-changed-again/26873)

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**Author:** [@o\_Ro](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/o_Ro)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [August 20, 2021, 7:49pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/books-changed-again/26873 "2021-08-20T19:49:39Z")

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Books have stopped working, they no longer improve skill of any kind in the lastest experimental. No traits that interfere and tested with no mods on. Edit: Back to stable I go.

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## [Confused with new learning system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/confused-with-new-learning-system/26876)

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**Author:** [@Zeebie](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Zeebie)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [August 20, 2021, 7:02am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/confused-with-new-learning-system/26876 "2021-08-20T07:02:20Z")

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I’m struggling to understand the new system where books give theoretical but not practical knowledge. When I read books, it tells me that my skill level is increasing, and that same level seems to be used in the craftin…

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## [Frank version on MAC does not launch](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/frank-version-on-mac-does-not-launch/26875)

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**Author:** [@Wild\_Giller](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Wild_Giller)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [August 20, 2021, 1:02am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/frank-version-on-mac-does-not-launch/26875 "2021-08-20T01:02:27Z")

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Hi all. I’m a Mac user, OS is Mojave 10.14.6. The new stable tiles version (0.F Frank) cdda-osx-tiles-x64-2021-07-03-0512.dmg isn’t working. I install the package after downloading it, however the launcher crashes as so…

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## [Vehicle turrets suddenly can't hit the broad side of a barn?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vehicle-turrets-suddenly-cant-hit-the-broad-side-of-a-barn/26868)

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**Author:** [@Dano\_416](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Dano_416)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [August 19, 2021, 9:39pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vehicle-turrets-suddenly-cant-hit-the-broad-side-of-a-barn/26868 "2021-08-19T21:39:49Z")

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I’ve got the latest experimental build installed (2021-08-18-0858), and have been updating regularly for the last week or so, and I noticed sometime over the weekend I think that the M2 Browning .50 cal and the M249 .556…

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## [Bug report - New Game with Frank-1 version](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bug-report-new-game-with-frank-1-version/26851)

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**Author:** [@Cendar](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Cendar)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [August 18, 2021, 9:11pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bug-report-new-game-with-frank-1-version/26851 "2021-08-18T21:11:44Z")

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Hi all! Just wanted to report a bug I’m having when starting a new game (probably not game-breaking,I hope) Fresh install of CataclysmDDA Frank-1 stable release (windows tiles x64 version) Everytime I start a new game…

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## [Crows II turret I made not loading ammo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crows-ii-turret-i-made-not-loading-ammo/26863)

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**Author:** [@Bardo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bardo)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [August 17, 2021, 12:19pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crows-ii-turret-i-made-not-loading-ammo/26863 "2021-08-17T12:19:44Z")

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I made a M249 Crows II turret and when I place it down it doesn’t load ammo from my inventory despite the description saying it would. The turret itself is working, it normally says “hostile detected” and it tries to sho…

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## [Minimap goes black when alt+tab](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/minimap-goes-black-when-alt-tab/26859)

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**Author:** [@Noctivagante](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Noctivagante)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [August 17, 2021, 6:07am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/minimap-goes-black-when-alt-tab/26859 "2021-08-17T06:07:34Z")

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I don’t think this is a bug, maybe someone already know the solution, but my minimap disappears when I’m on fullscreen or windowed borderless mode and I Alt+Tab back in the game. Doesn’t happen in the other two modes.

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## [Are bows any good?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/are-bows-any-good/26827)

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**Author:** [@Shieldwall](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Shieldwall)\
**Replies:** 28\
**Last updated:** [August 13, 2021, 12:53am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/are-bows-any-good/26827 "2021-08-13T00:53:05Z")

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Hi, all. Returned to the game after a year+ pause, checking out things. So far seems like a lot of cool stuff was implemented. The question I have is: are bows still viable? I remember them being very strong(at least, t…

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## [100 armor coverage doesn't protect from bleeding attack](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/100-armor-coverage-doesnt-protect-from-bleeding-attack/26846)

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**Author:** [@Soymilk](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Soymilk)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [August 15, 2021, 6:07pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/100-armor-coverage-doesnt-protect-from-bleeding-attack/26846 "2021-08-15T18:07:16Z")

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New player on stable 0.F, wondering how armor is supposed to work. My PC is wearing a tactical full helmet which has 100 head, eye, and mouth coverage with 12.5 bash and 15 cut protection. A mi-go, which wiki says does 4…

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## [Focus from 100 to 1](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/focus-from-100-to-1/26848)

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**Author:** [@leafgecko](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/leafgecko)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [August 15, 2021, 4:34pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/focus-from-100-to-1/26848 "2021-08-15T16:34:29Z")

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steps to reproduce: wake up with 0 weariness and 100+ focus go straight build a window focus drop to 1 after completion, with weariness still at fresh level. running 0.F stable. Arch linux.

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## [Vehicles to the next afterlife](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vehicles-to-the-next-afterlife/26840)

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**Author:** [@BRUH](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BRUH)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [August 15, 2021, 3:45am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vehicles-to-the-next-afterlife/26840 "2021-08-15T03:45:07Z")

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I made quite the vehicle from an RV, how can I attach the vehicle I made to a character preset? Also, can anyone recommend or share how can I make a down-to-earth (Realism + aliens) filled to brim version of either F or…

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## [So dodging is bad now?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/so-dodging-is-bad-now/26695)

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**Author:** [@TheMasterGear](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheMasterGear)\
**Replies:** 81\
**Last updated:** [August 14, 2021, 11:49pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/so-dodging-is-bad-now/26695 "2021-08-14T23:49:49Z")

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So dodging in 0.F or maybe a bit earlier, I just tested. Not matter your dodge level, you can’t dodge when two enemies are next to you? Like what’s the point of dodging then if this isn’t a bug? This makes armor even bet…

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## [Mutation Changes mod](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/mutation-changes-mod/12362)

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**Author:** [@Peeved\_Penguin](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Peeved_Penguin)\
**Replies:** 80\
**Last updated:** [August 14, 2021, 3:30pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/mutation-changes-mod/12362 "2021-08-14T15:30:41Z")

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I like mutations, but one thing that bothered me about them was the fact that by the time you could actually make mutagens and serums, they were rendered pretty much useless. The amount of preparation required to get int…

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## [Love and monsters (2021)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/love-and-monsters-2021/26212)

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**Author:** [@Wojtek94](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Wojtek94)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [August 14, 2021, 1:36pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/love-and-monsters-2021/26212 "2021-08-14T13:36:22Z")

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Hello. I am wondering how many of you have watched ‘Love and monsters’ movie. To me this is the closest thing to Cataclysm. For real. I do not want to spoil anything but I highly recommend this movie to you. A little bit…

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## [How to enable No Filthy Clothes in 0.F?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-enable-no-filthy-clothes-in-0-f/26836)

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**Author:** [@leafgecko](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/leafgecko)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [August 14, 2021, 11:14am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-enable-no-filthy-clothes-in-0-f/26836 "2021-08-14T11:14:06Z")

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It’s not in the “Rebalance” page at world creation. I checked the mods folder, it’s not disabled, it’s just not there. Some googling resulted in Goats Community Modding Team · GitHub, where I downloaded from release and …

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## [We make TERRIBLE suggestions and come up with horrible ideas (Round II)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444)

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**Author:** [@Theundyingcode](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Theundyingcode)\
**Replies:** 1049\
**Last updated:** [August 13, 2021, 9:08pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/we-make-terrible-suggestions-and-come-up-with-horrible-ideas-round-ii/17444 "2021-08-13T21:08:49Z")

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So one of my favorite threads on the smf forums was: Kevin closed it for some unlisted reason but I think it deserves to live. Post the worst, most terrible ideas you can. Here are a couple to start us off again: R…

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## [Easy way to empty wallet?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/easy-way-to-empty-wallet/26598)

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**Author:** [@gtgiygus](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/gtgiygus)\
**Replies:** 15\
**Last updated:** [August 13, 2021, 6:40pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/easy-way-to-empty-wallet/26598 "2021-08-13T18:40:19Z")

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I had read a forum topic not that long ago, that had a good way to empty wallets. I assume it works for anything else as well. Now that I am playing again, I can’t find the info. Anyone point me in the right direction…

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## [Abrahms Fork It](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/abrahms-fork-it/26645)

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**Author:** [@MrAbrahms](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/MrAbrahms)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [July 10, 2021, 7:03am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/abrahms-fork-it/26645 "2021-07-10T07:03:50Z")

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Started a new mod, due to some of the changes in 0.F. This is basically a compilation/compatibility fork, of my favourite bits from some old versions/old mods, some of which aren’t getting updated any more. All credit fo…

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## [Rock\_glock v1.0 Released](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/rock-glock-v1-0-released/26799)

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**Author:** [@ERROR\_CODE](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ERROR_CODE)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [August 13, 2021, 12:23am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/rock-glock-v1-0-released/26799 "2021-08-13T00:23:48Z")

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rock\_glock Fred Flintstone be packin’ heat That’s right, it’s finally here. No longer will your wilderness character be stuck using weak bows and slings, and can instead use a gun just like they did back in the Neolith…

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## [Hobbies and Acquired tastes](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/hobbies-and-acquired-tastes/6329)

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**Author:** [@Datanazush](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Datanazush)\
**Replies:** 17\
**Last updated:** [August 12, 2021, 2:26pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/hobbies-and-acquired-tastes/6329 "2021-08-12T14:26:52Z")

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Over in the Bayonets topic, I derailed the topic a little talking about gun nuts and weapon maintenance, but it did give me a pretty great idea. Have hobbies available at the character creation menu, these would be smal…

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## [Rethinking Tailoring](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/rethinking-tailoring/26829)

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**Author:** [@bouchacha](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/bouchacha)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [August 11, 2021, 11:33pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/rethinking-tailoring/26829 "2021-08-11T23:33:08Z")

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From a pure gameplay perspective, tailoring is an extremely valuable skill early on. It provides armor, inventory space, and warmth. The raw materials needed for early recipes are easily found in abundance. It often make…

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## [Content Pack - Houses +](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/content-pack-houses/26407)

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**Author:** [@LilShiningMan](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/LilShiningMan)\
**Replies:** 15\
**Last updated:** [August 11, 2021, 5:11pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/content-pack-houses/26407 "2021-08-11T17:11:03Z")

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UPDATED September 13 2021 Fixed a few item references that were causing issues during startup in CDDA. Should be error free now! UPDATED - August 06 2021 I’ve removed the items I added that were meant to “port” over …

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## [What is your favorite QOL / balance mod?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-is-your-favorite-qol-balance-mod/26556)

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**Author:** [@KliPeH](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KliPeH)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [August 11, 2021, 6:09am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-is-your-favorite-qol-balance-mod/26556 "2021-08-11T06:09:37Z")

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Most people use big, game altering mods that add tons of new creatures, items, weapons, recipes and buildings to the base game - Magiclysm, Arcana, Aftershock, PK’s Rebalancing etc. But, not many people talk about (or ma…

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## [Ok so predator based mutants still need a knife](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ok-so-predator-based-mutants-still-need-a-knife/26681)

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**Author:** [@Tru3Ragnarok](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Tru3Ragnarok)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [August 10, 2021, 11:43pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ok-so-predator-based-mutants-still-need-a-knife/26681 "2021-08-10T23:43:30Z")

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Long time ago some of the pred mutations like claws or fangs had cutting characteristics. So basically if you had evolved to be able to do it then you could butcher corpses without carrying a knife. I get why they chang…

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## [Refrigerated tank](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/refrigerated-tank/26826)

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**Author:** [@ThinkSome](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ThinkSome)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [August 10, 2021, 11:01pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/refrigerated-tank/26826 "2021-08-10T23:01:07Z")

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Does it have a use case? From what I see, it is much heavier, 5W more power hungry, and weighs more than minifridge while at the same time having 15L less capacity and only accepting a single liquid. What am I missing? I…

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## [The case for why dodging was nerfed to much](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-case-for-why-dodging-was-nerfed-to-much/26825)

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**Author:** [@spicyshadow](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/spicyshadow)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [August 10, 2021, 10:32pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-case-for-why-dodging-was-nerfed-to-much/26825 "2021-08-10T22:32:35Z")

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Many people have complained that dodging was nerfed into the ground and now has very little utility unless paired with spicific martial arts or against a slow attacker that doesn’t attack more than one time per turn. Th…

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## [Realistic chemistry recipes](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/realistic-chemistry-recipes/26802)

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**Author:** [@DickWarlord](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DickWarlord)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [August 9, 2021, 11:14pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/realistic-chemistry-recipes/26802 "2021-08-09T23:14:38Z")

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So, I wanna start this topic by saying that Im a chemist in RL, and getting on a lab (in game) the first time made me so happy! So many chemicals! I got on researching all the recipes that could be made from them and was…

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