# Game Talk

**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/c/game-talk/27.md?page=377

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## [Open-world vs. Goal-based games](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/open-world-vs-goal-based-games/8058)

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**Author:** [@TacticalPteridactyl](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TacticalPteridactyl)\
**Replies:** 26\
**Last updated:** [November 29, 2014, 10:24pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/open-world-vs-goal-based-games/8058 "2014-11-29T22:24:34Z")

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I wrote a wholly unpopular post on the “Sheltered” forum about this a while back. My arguments were sound, but the community is so devoted to the concept of an open-world game that my points were not considered seriously…

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## [Sheltered start is broken](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/sheltered-start-is-broken/8106)

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**Author:** [@HunterAlpha1](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/HunterAlpha1)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [November 29, 2014, 10:11pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/sheltered-start-is-broken/8106 "2014-11-29T22:11:07Z")

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Because the hidden LMOE shelter thing was added now it seems the Sheltered Start scenario is broken. When starting I get an error message and then spawn in the middle of nowhere, no LMOE shelter in sight.

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## [Why so many zombies!?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/why-so-many-zombies/8108)

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**Author:** [@Powersteve](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Powersteve)\
**Replies:** 17\
**Last updated:** [November 29, 2014, 10:03pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/why-so-many-zombies/8108 "2014-11-29T22:03:28Z")

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First of all, hi everyone. Been playing this awesome game for a few weeks and lurking the forums a bit but just registered now because I have a seriously game-ruining problem :frowning: So apologies if this is a little w…

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## [I can't play with tiles](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-cant-play-with-tiles/8119)

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**Author:** [@RogueEsp](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/RogueEsp)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [November 29, 2014, 8:06pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-cant-play-with-tiles/8119 "2014-11-29T20:06:57Z")

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I made a post like this, but it didn’t get enough attention and then it died. Long history short, I just can’t play the tiles version because every time I touch a button it counts as I touched that button twice, this mea…

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## [CDDA 2452 SDL performance problems](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cdda-2452-sdl-performance-problems/8127)

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**Author:** [@SteelBlueWolf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/SteelBlueWolf)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [November 29, 2014, 7:59pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cdda-2452-sdl-performance-problems/8127 "2014-11-29T19:59:41Z")

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In experimental version 2452 I am experiencing minor performance problems with some UI elements. There are no problems with most of the game, but some of them react slowly and move at a low framerate. It’s most noticeabl…

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## [Etched Human Skull? Unmarked house?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/etched-human-skull-unmarked-house/4932)

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**Author:** [@HoundofDarkness](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/HoundofDarkness)\
**Replies:** 21\
**Last updated:** [November 29, 2014, 3:07pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/etched-human-skull-unmarked-house/4932 "2014-11-29T15:07:02Z")

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So a few weeks back, in v0.9, I went out scouting on my motorcycle and found a house. Yeah, ho-hum I found a house, but the thing that got my attention was that the whole thing was boarded up and marked as forest on my …

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## [Let's make this game evolve](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/lets-make-this-game-evolve/8060)

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**Author:** [@StopSignal](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/StopSignal)\
**Replies:** 35\
**Last updated:** [November 29, 2014, 2:05pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/lets-make-this-game-evolve/8060 "2014-11-29T14:05:48Z")

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This game is easy. Astonishingly easy. Really, very very easy. Or at least that is what late game people say? What does this mean? Late game is not hard enough, ladies and gentlemen. My suggestion will not fix that, b…

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## [Clothing Bug? 0.B 2434 experimental](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/clothing-bug-0-b-2434-experimental/8110)

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**Author:** [@Zelphir](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Zelphir)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [November 29, 2014, 1:11pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/clothing-bug-0-b-2434-experimental/8110 "2014-11-29T13:11:30Z")

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so some of clothes just disappear for what appears for no apparent reason I noticed two times one when I went to open a door I pressed A instead of a to activate and it told me you cant do anything special with your rei…

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## [Starting out as a mutant species](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/starting-out-as-a-mutant-species/8033)

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**Author:** [@Purplewisp](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Purplewisp)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [November 29, 2014, 7:00am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/starting-out-as-a-mutant-species/8033 "2014-11-29T07:00:26Z")

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Would it be reasonable to mod in backgrounds that have preset mutations? You would be able to pick backgrounds like Lizardman with some notable traits from the lizard mutation category. There could be cross mutation back…

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## [Necromancy mod suggestion (was in Latest Expermental Features thread)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/necromancy-mod-suggestion-was-in-latest-expermental-features-thread/8121)

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**Author:** [@Commie](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Commie)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [November 29, 2014, 6:00am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/necromancy-mod-suggestion-was-in-latest-expermental-features-thread/8121 "2014-11-29T06:00:14Z")

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Any chance the Necro mod could just work on corpses directly, instead of needing chunks of meat? For example, bear corpse + control chip = friendly bear? edit I’m looking at the Necro json files (something I’ve litera…

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## [Reloading gun mod for revolvers](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/reloading-gun-mod-for-revolvers/8092)

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**Author:** [@RADIALTHRONE1](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/RADIALTHRONE1)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [November 29, 2014, 4:38am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/reloading-gun-mod-for-revolvers/8092 "2014-11-29T04:38:03Z")

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Most of the revolvers (and shotguns) have the “RELOAD\_ONE” flag attached to them, so that they only reload one bullet for every reload action command. Would it be possible to make a gun mod for revolvers that gives them …

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## [Refugee Centre (0.A-2256)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/refugee-centre-0-a-2256/8109)

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**Author:** [@Marza](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Marza)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [November 29, 2014, 12:57am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/refugee-centre-0-a-2256/8109 "2014-11-29T00:57:14Z")

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0.A-2256 SDL Windows 8 Approaching a refugee centre causes an immediate crash. I’m unsure if the slime pit that spawned directly adjacent is part of the problem. Save file provided here. Extract it into the save fold…

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## [OxB: When FLOOR(REAL) is not applicable](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/oxb-when-floor-real-is-not-applicable/8116)

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**Author:** [@EditorRUS](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/EditorRUS)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [November 28, 2014, 10:10pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/oxb-when-floor-real-is-not-applicable/8116 "2014-11-28T22:10:41Z")

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That’s the weirdest thing I’ve ever seen. I got 8 plastic bags of coffee powder (20) after I stormed a hotel. And you know what? A plastic bag of coffee powder (20) takes 1 volume per each. But then I made it “Plastic…

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## [CBMs turning off and Cloning Vehicle Parts](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cbms-turning-off-and-cloning-vehicle-parts/8082)

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**Author:** [@Blaze](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Blaze)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [November 28, 2014, 9:10pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cbms-turning-off-and-cloning-vehicle-parts/8082 "2014-11-28T21:10:34Z")

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Active Power-generating CBMs (Metabolic Interchange, Battery System, Internal Furnace) turn off after some turns pass. Since power isn’t full there’s something else up. Those CBMs also can’t be turned off manually, despi…

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## [Colors](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/colors/8112)

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**Author:** [@Whaley](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Whaley)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [November 28, 2014, 8:41pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/colors/8112 "2014-11-28T20:41:23Z")

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Can someone point me in the right direction of where the colors are defined? I found a json in raw called colors, but it doesn’t contain some of the building colors (Yellow with Magenta Background, Etc.) Also, is it pos…

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## [Fixing grow\_plant in map.cpp](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/fixing-grow-plant-in-map-cpp/8113)

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**Author:** [@jokermatt999](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/jokermatt999)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [November 28, 2014, 8:04pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/fixing-grow-plant-in-map-cpp/8113 "2014-11-28T20:04:24Z")

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Hey, so I was looking through that function as I’d like to give different seeds different maturity rates to make farming more viable, but I noticed a TODO in there. It seems like plants are doing something kind of weird …

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## [CBM Autoinjector](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cbm-autoinjector/8103)

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**Author:** [@arctan2x](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/arctan2x)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [November 28, 2014, 7:00pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cbm-autoinjector/8103 "2014-11-28T19:00:49Z")

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As the title, a CBM that would automatically inject a drug into your system when it detects that the levels of whatever drug you’ve loaded it with are low in your body. Alternately an activated CBM (would be a free acti…

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## [Can't reinforce "RM42 fighting knife" (Has work-around, but still a bug)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cant-reinforce-rm42-fighting-knife-has-work-around-but-still-a-bug/8101)

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**Author:** [@RADIALTHRONE1](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/RADIALTHRONE1)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [November 28, 2014, 6:20pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cant-reinforce-rm42-fighting-knife-has-work-around-but-still-a-bug/8101 "2014-11-28T18:20:46Z")

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v0.B - 365efe2 Curses Win7 \[spoiler= Before I “fixed” my own problem\]I debugged myself a welder (with batteries), a RM42 fighting knife (wielding), and 200 plastic chunks. I can’t use the welder to reinforce the knife…

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## [How many hours a week do you play Cataclysm: DDA](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-many-hours-a-week-do-you-play-cataclysm-dda/8083)

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**Author:** [@Black\_OPs](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Black_OPs)\
**Replies:** 19\
**Last updated:** [November 28, 2014, 6:18pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-many-hours-a-week-do-you-play-cataclysm-dda/8083 "2014-11-28T18:18:35Z")

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How many hours do you pour into this great game! There are a few im very curious to find out \*cough cough Ninja

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## [Fun character creation options (could be useful for newbies)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/fun-character-creation-options-could-be-useful-for-newbies/8107)

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**Author:** [@youtoo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/youtoo)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [November 28, 2014, 5:20pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/fun-character-creation-options-could-be-useful-for-newbies/8107 "2014-11-28T17:20:46Z")

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Lots of new options for character creation and where to start. What ones do you like? Profession, stats, skills, start scenario and any world options you change. To help out new players, please keep it short and rate i…

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## [Skeleton in the game as an example of a spherical horse in vacuum](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/skeleton-in-the-game-as-an-example-of-a-spherical-horse-in-vacuum/7853)

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**Author:** [@vivat](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/vivat)\
**Replies:** 35\
**Last updated:** [November 28, 2014, 5:17pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/skeleton-in-the-game-as-an-example-of-a-spherical-horse-in-vacuum/7853 "2014-11-28T17:17:40Z")

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Hi! yet such a topic. zombies. Come with all kinds of zombies, I agree. rotting crawling exploding - in theory I can justify. But how can the skeletons? But with this I disagree. theoretically they can not move. muscle…

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## [Surviving more than a few days?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/surviving-more-than-a-few-days/8102)

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**Author:** [@Insane\_Bugman](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Insane_Bugman)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [November 28, 2014, 5:08pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/surviving-more-than-a-few-days/8102 "2014-11-28T17:08:58Z")

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Okay so, here’s the thing. I’ve been playing this game on and off for about a year now. I love it, but I never survived more than 5 days or so. I know that once you reach a certain point most things become trivial, but …

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## [0.B Stable SDL Win7: Salvage more rags than used to craft](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-b-stable-sdl-win7-salvage-more-rags-than-used-to-craft/8090)

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**Author:** [@KroganElite](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KroganElite)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [November 28, 2014, 4:12pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-b-stable-sdl-win7-salvage-more-rags-than-used-to-craft/8090 "2014-11-28T16:12:33Z")

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\[image\] I guess it depends if 35mins is worth 3 rags, but it still doesn’t make sense that you get more than what you put in.

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## [Archery Not Increasing](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/archery-not-increasing/8046)

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**Author:** [@Miloch](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Miloch)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [November 28, 2014, 1:20pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/archery-not-increasing/8046 "2014-11-28T13:20:43Z")

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Version: 0.B 2430 Windows Terminal I’ve been using my self bow for a bit and my archery skill is still 0%. Noticed that someone added some stuff to how bows work. Looks interesting but I’d be guessing something in the…

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## [Coleen's Tileset \[UPDATED Sept 8, 2014\]](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/coleens-tileset-updated-sept-8-2014/5455)

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**Author:** [@Coleen](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Coleen)\
**Replies:** 145\
**Last updated:** [November 28, 2014, 1:15pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/coleens-tileset-updated-sept-8-2014/5455 "2014-11-28T13:15:13Z")

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This tileset is based on Waldo, Sir Hoder and Tsu’s original tilesets. Also, a big THANK YOU to Chase for the tileset editor. It’s been invaluable! I had been using Waldo’s lovely tileset with the hope that he would k…

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## [Can't use intigrated toolset to hotwire a vehicle](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cant-use-intigrated-toolset-to-hotwire-a-vehicle/8100)

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**Author:** [@EkarusRyndren](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/EkarusRyndren)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [November 28, 2014, 10:52am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cant-use-intigrated-toolset-to-hotwire-a-vehicle/8100 "2014-11-28T10:52:16Z")

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What it says on the tin

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## [Animal empathy- Moose still attack me, why?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/animal-empathy-moose-still-attack-me-why/8075)

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**Author:** [@Black\_OPs](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Black_OPs)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [November 28, 2014, 8:31am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/animal-empathy-moose-still-attack-me-why/8075 "2014-11-28T08:31:53Z")

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do they ignore that trait or is it random? It was the only reason I took it because I kept on starting in a forest.

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## [Mod zombies to drop limbs when butchered, not tainted meats](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/mod-zombies-to-drop-limbs-when-butchered-not-tainted-meats/8086)

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**Author:** [@DrNightmares](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DrNightmares)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [November 28, 2014, 5:55am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/mod-zombies-to-drop-limbs-when-butchered-not-tainted-meats/8086 "2014-11-28T05:55:18Z")

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Could make it as an addon to change the game so not everyone have to put up with it. Zombies drops arms, legs, head and torso when butchered. Butcher those, you get tainted meat and bones. Maybe add blood? Buckets upon…

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## [Android Scenario](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/android-scenario/8067)

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**Author:** [@thedemondude1](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/thedemondude1)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [November 28, 2014, 2:00am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/android-scenario/8067 "2014-11-28T02:00:47Z")

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I think they should bring it. R.I.P Android Profession.

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## [DEBUG: Can't open data/keymap.txt. This may be a permissions issue. Press spa](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/debug-cant-open-data-keymap-txt-this-may-be-a-permissions-issue-press-spa/8099)

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**Author:** [@Chalke](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Chalke)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [November 27, 2014, 11:26pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/debug-cant-open-data-keymap-txt-this-may-be-a-permissions-issue-press-spa/8099 "2014-11-27T23:26:27Z")

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Im running on a mac, and I tried searching for someone else who had the same problem, but the solution was literally written in an entirely different language: “You can get it running by opening terminal and opening the…

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