# Game Talk

**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/c/game-talk/27.md?page=37

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## [Any advice on how to deal with big groups of city zombies](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/any-advice-on-how-to-deal-with-big-groups-of-city-zombies/27045)

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**Author:** [@Rekimus](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rekimus)\
**Replies:** 17\
**Last updated:** [September 17, 2021, 6:44pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/any-advice-on-how-to-deal-with-big-groups-of-city-zombies/27045 "2021-09-17T18:44:46Z")

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I have a save I have been playing on for probably around 15 hours maybe more, the longest I have survived so far and loving it. I have set up in an apartment tower on the 2nd floor and am using that as my home base. I ha…

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## [Is it possible to make a "swimmable" and "place\_item" flag on terrain simultaneously?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-it-possible-to-make-a-swimmable-and-place-item-flag-on-terrain-simultaneously/27049)

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**Author:** [@Bio](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bio)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [September 17, 2021, 6:09pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-it-possible-to-make-a-swimmable-and-place-item-flag-on-terrain-simultaneously/27049 "2021-09-17T18:09:26Z")

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Since non-boat items seem to dissapear (cars, etc.) when they touch water is it possible for place item flag to co-exist with swimming flags, if you were to create a tile that had both the swimmable and place item tag? …

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## [Playing on an Android tv](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/playing-on-an-android-tv/27051)

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**Author:** [@JohnKihan](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/JohnKihan)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [September 17, 2021, 9:42am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/playing-on-an-android-tv/27051 "2021-09-17T09:42:01Z")

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I installed the latest stable version on an Android tv hoping I could play on a wide screen display. I launch the game and created a new world and waits for it to load. Then when it reached the Tileset on the loading scr…

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## [Challenge - Fungal Infection Experience](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/challenge-fungal-infection-experience/27048)

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**Author:** [@Gilliph](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Gilliph)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [September 17, 2021, 3:09am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/challenge-fungal-infection-experience/27048 "2021-09-17T03:09:06Z")

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I don’t see many talks about this challenge, So I thought this be a good place to consolidate thoughts about everyone’s experience with it. Most times for me it’s purely luck that I survive the initial experience. Even …

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## [So what determines if the ground is grass or not?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/so-what-determines-if-the-ground-is-grass-or-not/27046)

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**Author:** [@Bio](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bio)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [September 16, 2021, 12:26pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/so-what-determines-if-the-ground-is-grass-or-not/27046 "2021-09-16T12:26:27Z")

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I was thinking about messing around with world gen since all the forests everywhere with pools can make finding food trivial for experienced survivors, and I was thinking about making a more “blasted earth” wasteland or …

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## [Black gunpowder guns degrading too fast in current builds](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/black-gunpowder-guns-degrading-too-fast-in-current-builds/26992)

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**Author:** [@Rot](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rot)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [September 15, 2021, 7:54am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/black-gunpowder-guns-degrading-too-fast-in-current-builds/26992 "2021-09-15T07:54:52Z")

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Black gunpowder rightfully corrodes gun barrels and other parts, but on guns made for black powder like flintlocks and Colt M1860/1861’s they degrade way too fast in the current builds to be even remotely realistic. I w…

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## [Diagonal Vehicles Causing Undead Passengers](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/diagonal-vehicles-causing-undead-passengers/27039)

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**Author:** [@TwoFeather](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TwoFeather)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [September 15, 2021, 2:34am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/diagonal-vehicles-causing-undead-passengers/27039 "2021-09-15T02:34:45Z")

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So I feel like it’s probably been mentioned before because it’s pretty obvious, but when I have my vehicle parked diagonally, I can enter the vehicle through any of the little corner sections Cool, no problem, whatever,…

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## [The most unpleasant surprise](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-most-unpleasant-surprise/27038)

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**Author:** [@Wojtek94](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Wojtek94)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [September 14, 2021, 9:00pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-most-unpleasant-surprise/27038 "2021-09-14T21:00:21Z")

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The middle of nowhere. After midnight I ate a hot supper, drank some water and went to sleep in an improvised shelter. Campfire was giving me warmth. My horse was resting next to my shelter. Everything was alright. I fel…

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## [Iron lung bionic](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/iron-lung-bionic/26099)

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**Author:** [@Bio](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bio)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [September 12, 2021, 11:49pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/iron-lung-bionic/26099 "2021-09-12T23:49:29Z")

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I was thinking it would be nice if we got some bionics that helped with breathing, such as when your breathing stops during alcohol poisoning, or getting winded. the idea would be that if your lungs stopped working it wi…

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## ["You miss and stumble with the momentum..."](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/you-miss-and-stumble-with-the-momentum/27034)

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**Author:** [@gtgiygus](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/gtgiygus)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [September 14, 2021, 2:01pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/you-miss-and-stumble-with-the-momentum/27034 "2021-09-14T14:01:11Z")

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So I don’t quite get this. Using a Fire Axe, wearing riot gear. When I first picked up the axe, I almost never got this message. The gear my character is wearing into battle hasn’t changed at all (under 20 torso encum…

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## [When is Dual wielding/handling gonna be added?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/when-is-dual-wielding-handling-gonna-be-added/27017)

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**Author:** [@JohnKihan](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/JohnKihan)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [September 14, 2021, 12:29pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/when-is-dual-wielding-handling-gonna-be-added/27017 "2021-09-14T12:29:10Z")

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I’ve read it would be implemented but when? I want to carry a duffel bags in each of my hands.

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## [Overmap notes disppear everday](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/overmap-notes-disppear-everday/27033)

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**Author:** [@Cactus\_Survivor](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Cactus_Survivor)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [September 14, 2021, 12:50am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/overmap-notes-disppear-everday/27033 "2021-09-14T00:50:01Z")

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I am playing the latest experimental build. At the end of everyday, my character forget the places that he has visited in the overmap. All of the notes that I made in the overmap are gone. The character has 8 Int. Is tha…

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## [Updated keybinds for newer players](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/updated-keybinds-for-newer-players/25421)

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**Author:** [@Sperg](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Sperg)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [September 14, 2021, 12:46am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/updated-keybinds-for-newer-players/25421 "2021-09-14T00:46:11Z")

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I say for newer players since vets will probably be too used to the default, or have your own setups, but feel free to incorporate any of this too. I was a new player too until only recently. I couldn’t make sense of al…

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## [Getting down from roofs is cumbersome and unintuitive](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/getting-down-from-roofs-is-cumbersome-and-unintuitive/26880)

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**Author:** [@Rand](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rand)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [September 14, 2021, 12:11am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/getting-down-from-roofs-is-cumbersome-and-unintuitive/26880 "2021-09-14T00:11:55Z")

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I find it extremely unintuitive that I can push the “ascend” key to go up on a drainpipe, but the “descend” key along the edge does nothing. If you’re over a drainpipe top graphic, it should work like stairs. I died onc…

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## [Fudged a key press and fell to my death, now what?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/fudged-a-key-press-and-fell-to-my-death-now-what/27024)

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**Author:** [@Lomax](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Lomax)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [September 13, 2021, 8:39pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/fudged-a-key-press-and-fell-to-my-death-now-what/27024 "2021-09-13T20:39:11Z")

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So I was having a really good run, having settled in a military bunker and collected a lot of nice gear. I’d also built a solar powered vehicle, and cleared out the small town nearest to the bunker. During my last raid I…

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## ['Tree cutting' vs 'Wood sawing'](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tree-cutting-vs-wood-sawing/26703)

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**Author:** [@bouchacha](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/bouchacha)\
**Replies:** 17\
**Last updated:** [September 13, 2021, 4:20am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tree-cutting-vs-wood-sawing/26703 "2021-09-13T04:20:21Z")

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I assume that chopping down trees uses the ‘tree cutting’ quality. But what about ‘chop a tree trunk into logs’ or ‘cut a log into planks’? It’s not clear what exactly the dividing line is between cutting a tree and sawi…

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## [Where can I find the electric arc furnace?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/where-can-i-find-the-electric-arc-furnace/27020)

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**Author:** [@DeWolf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DeWolf)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [September 12, 2021, 10:55pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/where-can-i-find-the-electric-arc-furnace/27020 "2021-09-12T22:55:51Z")

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So I was looking though the debug spawning menu and I saw an pseudo item for an electric arc furnace which then led me to looking up the actual furniture as well as realizing that all the furniture power tools are useabl…

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## [Help! I destroyed the ceiling in my bunker base! How to repair?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/help-i-destroyed-the-ceiling-in-my-bunker-base-how-to-repair/26989)

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**Author:** [@Lomax](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Lomax)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [September 11, 2021, 10:09pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/help-i-destroyed-the-ceiling-in-my-bunker-base-how-to-repair/26989 "2021-09-11T22:09:12Z")

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Schoolboy error; I just wanted to alter the layout of my military bunker base a little, but when I (eventually) went up to ground level I realised I had made big holes in the ceiling :anguished: Is there any way I can re…

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## [If you can’t beat them join them. (Monster idea)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/if-you-can-t-beat-them-join-them-monster-idea/26980)

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**Author:** [@Officer\_C4](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Officer_C4)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [September 11, 2021, 4:56pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/if-you-can-t-beat-them-join-them-monster-idea/26980 "2021-09-11T16:56:18Z")

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CBM’s, Mutations, and more esoteric advancements have been a core part of progression and challenge in CDDA. However, at a certain point these great foundations can get a bit squeaky. So I have been thinking of a new lay…

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## [Suggestion: Implement an electrical pasta machine](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/suggestion-implement-an-electrical-pasta-machine/26069)

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**Author:** [@Bjo\_Hart](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bjo_Hart)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [September 11, 2021, 2:53pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/suggestion-implement-an-electrical-pasta-machine/26069 "2021-09-11T14:53:23Z")

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Hi there. I like pasta in RL and i like pasta in CDDA, but it’s a bit time consuming to make the raw noodles. Would it be possible to implement some sort of electrical pasta machine like this in the game?

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## [Uncanny dodge changes?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/uncanny-dodge-changes/27007)

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**Author:** [@o\_Ro](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/o_Ro)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [September 10, 2021, 3:03pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/uncanny-dodge-changes/27007 "2021-09-10T15:03:58Z")

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Is it working properly? I tested it out on experimental and the only thing it helped me with was the acid darts and nothing else. Melee and bullet (burst and single shot) get through easily, and even the acid darts can g…

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## [Zones Manager, Autosort items out of a disabled loot zone](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/zones-manager-autosort-items-out-of-a-disabled-loot-zone/26985)

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**Author:** [@Quintovir](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Quintovir)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [September 8, 2021, 10:07am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/zones-manager-autosort-items-out-of-a-disabled-loot-zone/26985 "2021-09-08T10:07:43Z")

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Let’s say you have two loot zones of the same type, where one is enabled and the other is disabled. The disabled loot zone has items that match its item type. If you add an unsort zone over the disabled loot zone and ru…

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## [Is there a multiple tile entity/creature in the game](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-there-a-multiple-tile-entity-creature-in-the-game/26991)

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**Author:** [@JohnKihan](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/JohnKihan)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [September 10, 2021, 12:43pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-there-a-multiple-tile-entity-creature-in-the-game/26991 "2021-09-10T12:43:51Z")

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Like is there a gargantuan abomination that I could fight in the game?

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## [Repair console in a parking garage](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/repair-console-in-a-parking-garage/26990)

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**Author:** [@gtgiygus](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/gtgiygus)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [September 10, 2021, 9:00am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/repair-console-in-a-parking-garage/26990 "2021-09-10T09:00:02Z")

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I am pretty sure you can’t, but just checking. I found a parking garage with a lot of great condition cars in it (neat addition!). The lift to get the cars off the upper floors needs a working console though, and all a…

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## [How world save system really works?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-world-save-system-really-works/27005)

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**Author:** [@Darkhan\_Vasilev](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Darkhan_Vasilev)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [September 10, 2021, 4:26am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-world-save-system-really-works/27005 "2021-09-10T04:26:33Z")

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Hello everyone! I’ve been playing this game for a while and starting to understand the mechanics of it, but I’ve found something confusing doing so. The last time I’ve played our house power was cut off, interrupting th…

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## [Weaponrange of the Ruger 10/22](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/weaponrange-of-the-ruger-10-22/26908)

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**Author:** [@Bjo\_Hart](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bjo_Hart)\
**Replies:** 13\
**Last updated:** [September 9, 2021, 8:43am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/weaponrange-of-the-ruger-10-22/26908 "2021-09-09T08:43:09Z")

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Hi folks. I would like to see the the range of the Ruger 10/22 raised. At this moment its only 13. In RL this thing shoots 100m with no problem… https://ruger.com/products/1022/overview.html

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## [Is there a playable monster mod?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-there-a-playable-monster-mod/26167)

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**Author:** [@Wojtek94](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Wojtek94)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [September 8, 2021, 3:32pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-there-a-playable-monster-mod/26167 "2021-09-08T15:32:34Z")

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I am curious if there is a mod that allows us to play as a monster / animal. It would be interesting. I used to have a great time during Alien campaign in AvP 2

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## [Dog Sized Everything](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/dog-sized-everything/26685)

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**Author:** [@ilovehans10](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ilovehans10)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [September 8, 2021, 3:28pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/dog-sized-everything/26685 "2021-09-08T15:28:59Z")

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Everything that can fit in a cubic meter is “the size of a dog” or “the size of a small dog” and I see this as an oversight. I sort of understand where this is coming from as being fairly ambiguous with sizing gives play…

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## [Story of Alfred Hanseem](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/story-of-alfred-hanseem/26649)

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**Author:** [@JohnKihan](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/JohnKihan)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [September 8, 2021, 7:56am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/story-of-alfred-hanseem/26649 "2021-09-08T07:56:04Z")

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This is a short novel I am currently writing to practice my English. This is loosely based on one of my runs. (If there are grammatical errors please point out as I am not a native English speaker and you correcting my g…

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## [Is x64 windows build canceled?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-x64-windows-build-canceled/26917)

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**Author:** [@kdmcser](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kdmcser)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [September 8, 2021, 7:19am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-x64-windows-build-canceled/26917 "2021-09-08T07:19:51Z")

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Since 0827，I can not find windows x64 release in experimental version. What is happend? This version is necessary for me, Because my belief does not allow me to run a 32bit problem in my computer. Can it be restored? T…

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