# Game Talk

**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/c/game-talk/27.md?page=368

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## [Something that would make sense](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/something-that-would-make-sense/8422)

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**Author:** [@Codeslamer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Codeslamer)\
**Replies:** 20\
**Last updated:** [December 28, 2014, 4:31am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/something-that-would-make-sense/8422 "2014-12-28T04:31:36Z")

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You just start the game, go outside and a zombie dog sees you. You lure it into a window and no-matter if you have a pipe, stick, or just unarmed, you miss, and miss, and miss. Over and over, not hitting it once until dy…

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## [Nanodisassemblers](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/nanodisassemblers/8438)

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**Author:** [@system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/system)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [December 28, 2014, 1:44am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/nanodisassemblers/8438 "2014-12-28T01:44:09Z")

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With the current problem of lag from clutter, I’ve been trying to pare down my base. I cheated in a steel recycler (pretending that I broke one down and moved it to my base), but even after burning what could be burnt I…

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## [\[OFFLINE\] Cataclysm DDA Stream - host by: MacrosBlackD](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/offline-cataclysm-dda-stream-host-by-macrosblackd/8444)

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**Author:** [@macrosblackd](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/macrosblackd)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [December 28, 2014, 1:42am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/offline-cataclysm-dda-stream-host-by-macrosblackd/8444 "2014-12-28T01:42:12Z")

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\*\* Currently Offline \*\* Alas, Officer Murphy died to a group of survivor zombies! I’ve enabled recordings on twitch, so it’s not too late to catch the action! Link: http://www.twitch.tv/macrosblackd Come join me for …

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## [More hidden stats on weapons](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/more-hidden-stats-on-weapons/8442)

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**Author:** [@Newper5](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Newper5)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [December 27, 2014, 7:13pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/more-hidden-stats-on-weapons/8442 "2014-12-27T19:13:37Z")

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I was reading another post on this forum earlier, where someone remarked that most looted items should generally be better than most crafted items. From a gameplay standpoint, I agree, but it struck me that players never…

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## [Hydrogen cells are not craftable](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/hydrogen-cells-are-not-craftable/8383)

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**Author:** [@Maur](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Maur)\
**Replies:** 24\
**Last updated:** [December 27, 2014, 8:28am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/hydrogen-cells-are-not-craftable/8383 "2014-12-27T08:28:06Z")

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Hm, did hydrogen recipe suffer from a purge? I updated to latest experimental and i cant craft it anymore…

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## [\[02ce2f3\] Using a previous version save, game crashes while wandering in town](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/02ce2f3-using-a-previous-version-save-game-crashes-while-wandering-in-town/8433)

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**Author:** [@idspispopd](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/idspispopd)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [December 27, 2014, 6:57am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/02ce2f3-using-a-previous-version-save-game-crashes-while-wandering-in-town/8433 "2014-12-27T06:57:15Z")

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Well I’ve finally gotten to a point where apparently bringing my old character from previous versions isn’t working for newer versions. I’m not certain what exactly is causing the crash but it seems to happen only in tow…

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## [I've released the Item Browser's source code](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ive-released-the-item-browsers-source-code/8439)

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**Author:** [@Sheco](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Sheco)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [December 27, 2014, 5:39am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ive-released-the-item-browsers-source-code/8439 "2014-12-27T05:39:53Z")

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When I first started working on the item browser, I promised I would share the code after I cleaned it up. It’s been now almost a year, the code still is not well commented (or at all), but it should be clean enough oth…

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## [Two sword based martialarts ideas](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/two-sword-based-martialarts-ideas/8201)

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**Author:** [@Purplewisp](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Purplewisp)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [December 27, 2014, 5:27am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/two-sword-based-martialarts-ideas/8201 "2014-12-27T05:27:30Z")

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This is more of a suggestion for two martialarts, than a mod for them. Although I did some basic coding in the json files, and they work at the moment, I am not a coder and would probably make some serious mistakes if I …

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## [Newb Map Help](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/newb-map-help/8407)

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**Author:** [@Shrde](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Shrde)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [December 27, 2014, 3:20am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/newb-map-help/8407 "2014-12-27T03:20:38Z")

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Is there any tips I can Have that will make reading the map at glance easy i find it very hard to read the map, due to the lack of tile support. Also is that planned to add tile support

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## [\[0x4360b7a-latest?\]: Hydrogen](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0x4360b7a-latest-hydrogen/8437)

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**Author:** [@EditorRUS](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/EditorRUS)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [December 27, 2014, 3:14am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0x4360b7a-latest-hydrogen/8437 "2014-12-27T03:14:32Z")

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http://smf.cataclysmdda.com/index.php?topic=8988.msg205328#msg205328 Check this message. Turned out to be a way to make 100 hydrogen out of 1 without using any resources.

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## [Zombies Hate Cars](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/zombies-hate-cars/8399)

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**Author:** [@Blaze](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Blaze)\
**Replies:** 20\
**Last updated:** [December 26, 2014, 1:10pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/zombies-hate-cars/8399 "2014-12-26T13:10:32Z")

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Whenever I head into town, the zombies destroy all the vehicles before I can do anything about it. Zombie hits car, generates sound, brings in more zombies, those zombies hit car, repeat until no more car. While it is …

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## [(005f369 Tiles/Windows) Bio-operator zombie night](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/005f369-tiles-windows-bio-operator-zombie-night/8424)

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**Author:** [@Codeslamer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Codeslamer)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [December 26, 2014, 11:30am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/005f369-tiles-windows-bio-operator-zombie-night/8424 "2014-12-26T11:30:01Z")

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I don’t know if it’s meant to happen or not but it’s the middle of the night and there is no light surrounding the 2 bio-operator zombies in the area yet i can see them from 57 tiles away. I’m not using a flashlight or a…

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## [Modded Nail Gun/Nail Gun Mods](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/modded-nail-gun-nail-gun-mods/8428)

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**Author:** [@Lord\_Letto](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Lord_Letto)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [December 26, 2014, 5:05am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/modded-nail-gun-nail-gun-mods/8428 "2014-12-26T05:05:38Z")

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what I had in mind: http://highschool-of-the-dead.wikia.com/wiki/Nail\_Gun Makeshift Stock: 2x 2x4, 20 charges of Duct tape (Possibly 8-10 Nails, Tool with Hammering and Wood Cutting 1) Makeshift Sights: 1 Skewer, 5 Cha…

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## [Disappearing corpses on wreckage](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/disappearing-corpses-on-wreckage/8430)

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**Author:** [@Ember](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ember)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [December 26, 2014, 3:33am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/disappearing-corpses-on-wreckage/8430 "2014-12-26T03:33:01Z")

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haven’t had a chance to reproduce, but I killed a zombie that was standing on a wreckage tile, the one that has a chance to damage you, and when it died, its corpse disappeared I cant remember what version it happened i…

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## [MOVED: Modded Nail Gun/Nail Gun Mods](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/moved-modded-nail-gun-nail-gun-mods/8429)

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**Author:** [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [December 26, 2014, 1:06am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/moved-modded-nail-gun-nail-gun-mods/8429 "2014-12-26T01:06:32Z")

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This topic has been moved to The Drawing Board - Suggestions, Comments, and Future Plans. \[iurl\]http://smf.cataclysmdda.com/index.php?topic=9039.0\[/iurl\]

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## [(005f369 Tiles/Windows) Butchering bug](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/005f369-tiles-windows-butchering-bug/8423)

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**Author:** [@Codeslamer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Codeslamer)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [December 25, 2014, 9:53pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/005f369-tiles-windows-butchering-bug/8423 "2014-12-25T21:53:57Z")

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I killed a few zombies which piled up 3 of them onto the same tile. Once it was clear i pressed B then selected the corpse to butcher. It advanced time but instead of butchering it said ‘There are no corpses to butcher h…

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## [Practical research into loading odd things in shells... done :)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/practical-research-into-loading-odd-things-in-shells-done/8425)

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**Author:** [@FenMayhew](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/FenMayhew)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [December 25, 2014, 8:27pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/practical-research-into-loading-odd-things-in-shells-done/8425 "2014-12-25T20:27:11Z")

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Not by me… :smiley: the youtube channel Taofledermaus and their playlist Things NEVER meant to go SUPERSONIC has lots of odd stuff some found in game which could be interpreted into the game as loadable for shotgun hu…

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## [Starting without shoes and axe?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/starting-without-shoes-and-axe/8410)

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**Author:** [@Viik](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Viik)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [December 25, 2014, 3:29pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/starting-without-shoes-and-axe/8410 "2014-12-25T15:29:14Z")

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I’ve selected lumberjack as a starting profession but I spawn without axe and shoes. I was starting without shoes on some previous spawn with a different profession too, is it normal now? This is on latest stable win/t…

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## [(4af7c5b Tiles) speed penalty for temperatures twice the displayed&intended value](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/4af7c5b-tiles-speed-penalty-for-temperatures-twice-the-displayed-intended-value/8408)

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**Author:** [@iceball3](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/iceball3)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [December 25, 2014, 2:48pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/4af7c5b-tiles-speed-penalty-for-temperatures-twice-the-displayed-intended-value/8408 "2014-12-25T14:48:41Z")

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\[image\] Yeah, as you can see. I think it may be accidentally applying the debuff twice, somehow. Very debilitating when being a bit warm all over can make the difference between 75 and 53 speed. Am i the only one who …

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## [(bc17d56) Seemingly Random Crash](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bc17d56-seemingly-random-crash/8402)

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**Author:** [@EkarusRyndren](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/EkarusRyndren)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [December 25, 2014, 5:18am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bc17d56-seemingly-random-crash/8402 "2014-12-25T05:18:20Z")

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I don’t know what’s causing this crash but as I head a direction, it changes each time, seems to be connected to something generating as I move, the game crashes. I’d love to know the cause so I can at least try to keep …

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## [Bolas](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bolas/8389)

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**Author:** [@mdtexeira](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/mdtexeira)\
**Replies:** 14\
**Last updated:** [December 25, 2014, 2:21am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bolas/8389 "2014-12-25T02:21:15Z")

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I did a search and there were other people suggesting the same thing, but it was a while ago, and since I necroed a thread last time, I thought I’d start a new one this time. Bolas are really easy to make, and pretty ef…

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## [A Cataclysm DDA Christmas Story](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-cataclysm-dda-christmas-story/8406)

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**Author:** [@Tivec](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Tivec)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [December 25, 2014, 1:39am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-cataclysm-dda-christmas-story/8406 "2014-12-25T01:39:04Z")

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A productive morning on the IRC resulted in the twelve days of christmas, with a Cataclysm theme. Thought I’d share it with you guys: On the first day of Christmas, Cata gave to me: A zombie head in a pine tree. On th…

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## [\[Stable\] Possibility to create infinite rags](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stable-possibility-to-create-infinite-rags/8414)

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**Author:** [@FrogVoice](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/FrogVoice)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [December 25, 2014, 12:06am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stable-possibility-to-create-infinite-rags/8414 "2014-12-25T00:06:29Z")

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Okay, so with tailoring at level 3 it is possible to create sleeveless trenchcoats using rags like the recipe shows \[image\] As you can see this uses up 9 rags. Now if you cut up the trenchcoat it is possible to receiv…

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## [MOVED: Starting without shoes and axe?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/moved-starting-without-shoes-and-axe/8416)

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**Author:** [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [December 24, 2014, 11:58pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/moved-starting-without-shoes-and-axe/8416 "2014-12-24T23:58:27Z")

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Bug report -\> Garage, please. This topic has been moved to The Garage - Bug Reports and Technical Help. \[iurl\]http://smf.cataclysmdda.com/index.php?topic=9021.0\[/iurl\]

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## [No Tankbots Optional Mod?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/no-tankbots-optional-mod/8413)

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**Author:** [@Jakers](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Jakers)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [December 24, 2014, 10:45pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/no-tankbots-optional-mod/8413 "2014-12-24T22:45:56Z")

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Was wondering if this could be a feature implemented into the game. It’s what the name suggests, and I’m not suggesting because I’m butthurt because of good characters getting wiped out by tankbots, but because I dislike…

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## [Computer Revamp](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/computer-revamp/8308)

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**Author:** [@vache](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/vache)\
**Replies:** 14\
**Last updated:** [December 24, 2014, 10:32pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/computer-revamp/8308 "2014-12-24T22:32:48Z")

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Basically, I am trying to rework computers so that they can be loaded through json. It’s getting fairly close to a releasable condition, so I am submitting it here for everyone to review and tell me what I’m missing. O…

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## [Cannot get o.B to work on Mac](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cannot-get-o-b-to-work-on-mac/8409)

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**Author:** [@nioshy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/nioshy)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [December 24, 2014, 11:20am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cannot-get-o-b-to-work-on-mac/8409 "2014-12-24T11:20:04Z")

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Hi all, I cannot get the last version of DDA to work on my Mac… When I try to start the tiles version using the launcher, simply nothing happens (nothing really new here, I never got the tiles to work before). When I t…

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## [0.B 2542-2543 Wincurses - Crash on Pick-Up](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-b-2542-2543-wincurses-crash-on-pick-up/8385)

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**Author:** [@Fengferth](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Fengferth)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [December 24, 2014, 7:56am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-b-2542-2543-wincurses-crash-on-pick-up/8385 "2014-12-24T07:56:40Z")

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Playing around with 2543 and I had a very odd crash when I tried to pick up items in bulk. Happened again a second time when I tried picking up a few rotten bottles of juice. I rolled back to 2542, same thing happened. …

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## [Where can you find a ninjutsu book?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/where-can-you-find-a-ninjutsu-book/8403)

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**Author:** [@LordBranmuffinman](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/LordBranmuffinman)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [December 24, 2014, 7:46am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/where-can-you-find-a-ninjutsu-book/8403 "2014-12-24T07:46:49Z")

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I have been looking for one for some time now do they spawn in dojo’s or will I just have to hack a ninjutsu book in to learn it?

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## [Sleeping is almost real-time](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/sleeping-is-almost-real-time/7997)

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**Author:** [@system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/system)\
**Replies:** 49\
**Last updated:** [December 24, 2014, 7:44am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/sleeping-is-almost-real-time/7997 "2014-12-24T07:44:48Z")

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If you have a lot of items in your base, sleeping, crafting, and disassembling take a very, very, very long time. Sleeping now takes several minutes during which the game just locks up and it’s getting longer as I conti…

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