# Game Talk

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## [2648 Win graphical: reality-bubble omniscience for "shock" messages](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/2648-win-graphical-reality-bubble-omniscience-for-shock-messages/8655)

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**Author:** [@Aluminumfoil](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Aluminumfoil)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [January 18, 2015, 1:51am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/2648-win-graphical-reality-bubble-omniscience-for-shock-messages/8655 "2015-01-18T01:51:05Z")

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The combat message, “Striking the \[monster\] shocks the \[monster\]!” appears to display any time you’re in the same reality bubble, even if you can’t see or hear the attack.

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## [\[7db1279\] Attempting to construct wooden fence gates just makes wooden fence](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/7db1279-attempting-to-construct-wooden-fence-gates-just-makes-wooden-fence/8649)

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**Author:** [@AllisonW](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/AllisonW)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [January 17, 2015, 10:57pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/7db1279-attempting-to-construct-wooden-fence-gates-just-makes-wooden-fence/8649 "2015-01-17T22:57:33Z")

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Experimental version #2648, Windows Console version, running on Windows Vista. Exactly what it says on the tin. When I try to construct wooden fence gates, the result is an ordinary, non-gate, picket fence tile. Construc…

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## [Meth balancing and various other small bugs](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/meth-balancing-and-various-other-small-bugs/8637)

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**Author:** [@Bumpkin](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bumpkin)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [January 17, 2015, 10:51pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/meth-balancing-and-various-other-small-bugs/8637 "2015-01-17T22:51:55Z")

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v701fd70 Somebody changed meth to make you crash into exhausted in a fairly recent build and I really like the change (earlier on, my character didn’t sleep for 2 weeks after a few meth-fuelled days of running from hord…

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## [Character hunger, thirst, tiredness FUBAR](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/character-hunger-thirst-tiredness-fubar/8612)

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**Author:** [@Sealco](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Sealco)\
**Replies:** 16\
**Last updated:** [January 17, 2015, 10:30pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/character-hunger-thirst-tiredness-fubar/8612 "2015-01-17T22:30:36Z")

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My character was looting a town as usual and went to sleep in my vehicle for the night. When I woke up, I had gone from full and slaked to dehydrated and famished, and somehow was still tired after ~10 hours of sleep. Th…

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## [Car singularities](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/car-singularities/8527)

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**Author:** [@Valpo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Valpo)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [January 17, 2015, 10:27pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/car-singularities/8527 "2015-01-17T22:27:19Z")

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I have encountered cars compressed into a single tile in build 2597. The whole chasis and all other parts are all piled up into a single map tile.

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## [Crafting a material in a can seperate from that can](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crafting-a-material-in-a-can-seperate-from-that-can/8647)

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**Author:** [@SaltyJustice](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/SaltyJustice)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [January 17, 2015, 10:21pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crafting-a-material-in-a-can-seperate-from-that-can/8647 "2015-01-17T22:21:01Z")

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Long time follower, first time poster. Blah blah. Here’s my issue in the mod I’m making: I want the player to be able to craft an item using soda, which is typically found inside a can. However, when I specify the vario…

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## [2648 Wincurses - Common Cold Bug?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/2648-wincurses-common-cold-bug/8652)

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**Author:** [@Fengferth](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Fengferth)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [January 17, 2015, 8:54pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/2648-wincurses-common-cold-bug/8652 "2015-01-17T20:54:16Z")

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Not too sure if this is a bug or not, but it seems likely. This was on a clean save, winter time using the Sheltered Senario. My char caught the common cold 2 days into the game, bare in mind though my char has Diesease …

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## [My hallucination is fighting a real eyebot 0.B-2612](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/my-hallucination-is-fighting-a-real-eyebot-0-b-2612/8597)

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**Author:** [@ramesesniblet](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ramesesniblet)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [January 17, 2015, 6:50pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/my-hallucination-is-fighting-a-real-eyebot-0-b-2612/8597 "2015-01-17T18:50:43Z")

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\[image\] Could go either way whether this is a bug with the new in-fighting or whether it’s intended. Either way it’s pretty amusing.

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## [Crafting menu slowdown](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crafting-menu-slowdown/8622)

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**Author:** [@dovla](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/dovla)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [January 17, 2015, 12:41pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crafting-menu-slowdown/8622 "2015-01-17T12:41:39Z")

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Is it just me or is the crafting menu suffering performance issues? I have a toon with high skills and accessing the crafting interface is becoming a pain…

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## [Which Mutation Tree do you Prefer?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/which-mutation-tree-do-you-prefer/8632)

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**Author:** [@Flashlight\_Hoarder](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Flashlight_Hoarder)\
**Replies:** 22\
**Last updated:** [January 17, 2015, 9:49am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/which-mutation-tree-do-you-prefer/8632 "2015-01-17T09:49:07Z")

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I personally like the Chimera Tree myself.

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## [Dealing with turrets and milspec turrets (on open ground)?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/dealing-with-turrets-and-milspec-turrets-on-open-ground/8627)

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**Author:** [@hexman](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/hexman)\
**Replies:** 20\
**Last updated:** [January 17, 2015, 9:22am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/dealing-with-turrets-and-milspec-turrets-on-open-ground/8627 "2015-01-17T09:22:50Z")

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Hello everyone, I’ve dealt with lots of turrets in the labs and I’ve deactivated most of them without getting hit. In labs I just used a scrambler grendade wait for the last tick (1), opened the door and threw it and wi…

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## [Can't find stairs](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cant-find-stairs/8644)

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**Author:** [@Bonevomit](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bonevomit)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [January 17, 2015, 2:30am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cant-find-stairs/8644 "2015-01-17T02:30:29Z")

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I’m playing version 488d615 on windows I do a lab-challenge and the game can never find the stairs, this causes me to spawn at random somewhere in the world.

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## [Updating the website?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/updating-the-website/8623)

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**Author:** [@ZombiLoin](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ZombiLoin)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [January 17, 2015, 1:59am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/updating-the-website/8623 "2015-01-17T01:59:59Z")

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I’m not sure if this has been discussed before but the screenshots on the website are heavily outdated- some new screenshots with tiles would be an improvement in my eyes. Hell, I’d love to send in some screenshots.

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## [Flashlight Staff](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/flashlight-staff/8639)

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**Author:** [@Flashlight\_Hoarder](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Flashlight_Hoarder)\
**Replies:** 14\
**Last updated:** [January 16, 2015, 11:59pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/flashlight-staff/8639 "2015-01-16T23:59:44Z")

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I just had an idea. What if you could use duct tape, a pole of some kind, and a flashlight to create a bashing weapon that doubles as a Flashlight?

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## [What is your raiding strategy?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-is-your-raiding-strategy/8244)

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**Author:** [@Illogical\_Blox](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Illogical_Blox)\
**Replies:** 49\
**Last updated:** [January 16, 2015, 8:13pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-is-your-raiding-strategy/8244 "2015-01-16T20:13:19Z")

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I go for a hit-and-run effect at first (usually when I first get hungry.) Making an effort to not be be noticed by or outrun zombies, I explore ONE house (usually, occassionally restaurant), then run with my stolen food,…

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## [0.B Vehicle Tracking Notification deactivates itself on load](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-b-vehicle-tracking-notification-deactivates-itself-on-load/8629)

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**Author:** [@ragamer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ragamer)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [January 16, 2015, 1:59am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-b-vehicle-tracking-notification-deactivates-itself-on-load/8629 "2015-01-16T01:59:18Z")

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I have the PDA, the tracking device is on and… …After loading I always have to go back to the vehicle and deactivate/activate it (Droping the PDA and getting it back doesn’t do the trick) so the “c” appears again on the…

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## [Is that possible to buid a window like the gun shop one?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-that-possible-to-buid-a-window-like-the-gun-shop-one/8421)

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**Author:** [@shadowlight](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/shadowlight)\
**Replies:** 17\
**Last updated:** [January 15, 2015, 8:44pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-that-possible-to-buid-a-window-like-the-gun-shop-one/8421 "2015-01-15T20:44:54Z")

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i want a window which is hard to break but with light through, just like the gun shop onces, is that possible?

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## [Custom Scenarios, Mapgen and Spawn-points](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/custom-scenarios-mapgen-and-spawn-points/8583)

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**Author:** [@Lord\_Frigid](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Lord_Frigid)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [January 15, 2015, 5:10pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/custom-scenarios-mapgen-and-spawn-points/8583 "2015-01-15T17:10:11Z")

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What I’m hoping to achieve: to make a custom Scenario, which Spawns the character inside of a small, custom-built Shack either in, or preferably an Overmap tile or two away from a Swamp. What I’ve actually done: I’ve su…

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## [0.B No Snares](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-b-no-snares/8628)

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**Author:** [@Internet\_Psycho](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Internet_Psycho)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [January 15, 2015, 2:27pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-b-no-snares/8628 "2015-01-15T14:27:46Z")

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Version: 0.B SDL Window 7 Home Premium I started the “Ambush” Scenario with the “Hardened Survivor” Profession then raised my trapping up to level one which should have allowed my to craft snares and snare triggers(si…

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## [How do I car?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-do-i-car/8607)

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**Author:** [@Sundaysmile](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Sundaysmile)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [January 15, 2015, 9:42am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-do-i-car/8607 "2015-01-15T09:42:58Z")

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Okay, been looking on Youtube for recent tutorials to better explain this crafting system but I’ve not found anything that tells me HOW to craft the materials/components of the vehicle. For example. Say I find a broken…

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## [Sound 21?! What is happening?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/sound-21-what-is-happening/8619)

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**Author:** [@hexman](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/hexman)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [January 15, 2015, 7:58am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/sound-21-what-is-happening/8619 "2015-01-15T07:58:02Z")

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Hello guys, I’ve been playing cata for a couple of weeks and I’ve got pretty far in this savegame. So everything was fine just, till I noticed that I was making 21 sound while walking!! Equivalent to a gunshot or a heavy…

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## ["FOLDABLE" tag](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/foldable-tag/8624)

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**Author:** [@Malkeus](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Malkeus)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [January 15, 2015, 6:15am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/foldable-tag/8624 "2015-01-15T06:15:50Z")

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Have you ever seen a circus as they set up? All the boxy trucks unfold into the rides and games, like mediocre transformers. I’m pretty sure having stuff unfold from a vehicle is impossible, but we have this nifty FOLDAB…

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## [0.B - AIM definitions](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-b-aim-definitions/8625)

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**Author:** [@Magistrate](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Magistrate)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [January 15, 2015, 6:11am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-b-aim-definitions/8625 "2015-01-15T06:11:57Z")

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I’ve noticed that the AIM has trouble defining the conditions of the items within it. I’ve only noticed this in once instance so far where I tried to put burnt logs into my wheelbarrow with some unburnt ones, and the en…

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## [0.B - Survival Trenchcoat - Bad values](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-b-survival-trenchcoat-bad-values/8590)

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**Author:** [@Magistrate](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Magistrate)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [January 15, 2015, 5:56am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-b-survival-trenchcoat-bad-values/8590 "2015-01-15T05:56:07Z")

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The Survivors trenchcoat has Armour Bash: 4 Cut: 9, while a leather vest offers 9-9. Is this a typo or did someone think their leather vest is better protection than a leather coat embedded with kevlar plates and reinfo…

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## [Sight dispersion and mods](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/sight-dispersion-and-mods/8594)

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**Author:** [@Murphy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Murphy)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [January 15, 2015, 5:01am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/sight-dispersion-and-mods/8594 "2015-01-15T05:01:02Z")

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Am I right in assuming less sight dispersion = better? Apparently game takes the lowest value of sight dispersion from the gun itself and all installed mods, and uses that. But it’s kinda strange considering the simples…

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## [Where can I find limestone?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/where-can-i-find-limestone/8617)

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**Author:** [@Bumpkin](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bumpkin)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [January 15, 2015, 12:54am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/where-can-i-find-limestone/8617 "2015-01-15T00:54:51Z")

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I checked a couple of mines, was I just unlucky? Seems like quicklime is a really harsh bottleneck for any brick/concrete projects.

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## [637f3b7 flop](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/637f3b7-flop/8621)

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**Author:** [@Catfoodbob](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Catfoodbob)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [January 14, 2015, 11:33pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/637f3b7-flop/8621 "2015-01-14T23:33:31Z")

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Well, when i downloaded it first of all it had none of the mods, then it couldnt recognize any of the items in the game, not even curry. and so many debug messages that i was holding down space for about 5 minutes and ga…

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## [0.B-2625: Aiming and firing finger-mounted laser bugs out](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-b-2625-aiming-and-firing-finger-mounted-laser-bugs-out/8618)

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**Author:** [@Solusphere](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Solusphere)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [January 14, 2015, 11:30pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-b-2625-aiming-and-firing-finger-mounted-laser-bugs-out/8618 "2015-01-14T23:30:42Z")

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Attempting to aim (.) and fire with the finger mounted laser causes you to fire whatever weapon is currently wielded rather than the laser, or if no weapon is currently wielded, causes the game to freeze.

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## [Mutation category expansion: Game balance derail](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/mutation-category-expansion-game-balance-derail/8589)

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**Author:** [@Llamageddon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Llamageddon)\
**Replies:** 119\
**Last updated:** [January 14, 2015, 10:57pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/mutation-category-expansion-game-balance-derail/8589 "2015-01-14T22:57:08Z")

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What if instead of combining mutations into mixed ones, you acquired them in good/bad pairs, that, if removed, are removed at once? That’s not done with health, and for the most part, not with clothes. Also, the curren…

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## [Monster nightvision](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/monster-nightvision/8608)

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**Author:** [@Coolthulhu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Coolthulhu)\
**Replies:** 16\
**Last updated:** [January 14, 2015, 4:16pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/monster-nightvision/8608 "2015-01-14T16:16:26Z")

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With a simple json change, monsters can be given nightvision now. If desired, they can be made to see further in the night than in the day. Currently no monster have any nightvision. This is mostly due to balance concer…

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