# Game Talk

**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/c/game-talk/27.md?page=312

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## [Explosive Vehicle Turrets (why they suck, and how to fix them)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/explosive-vehicle-turrets-why-they-suck-and-how-to-fix-them/10622)

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**Author:** [@chimpdroid](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/chimpdroid)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [September 30, 2015, 7:08pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/explosive-vehicle-turrets-why-they-suck-and-how-to-fix-them/10622 "2015-09-30T19:08:57Z")

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I can’t be the only one who’s been significantly inconvenienced by a grenade turret trying to kill a zombie dog right next to my vehicle/base/etc. If there was some sort of rangefinder add-on that you could put in any v…

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## [Atlatl or throwing balance could use some work](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/atlatl-or-throwing-balance-could-use-some-work/10608)

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**Author:** [@saltmummy626](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/saltmummy626)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [September 30, 2015, 3:26pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/atlatl-or-throwing-balance-could-use-some-work/10608 "2015-09-30T15:26:12Z")

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Just noticed today that atlatls are terribly under powered. They use throwing skill as their determining factor, my character is at level 5 in throwing. the atlatl throws a javalin 13 spaces and always seems to do betwee…

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## [Can you escape the lab challenge in the latest experimental?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-you-escape-the-lab-challenge-in-the-latest-experimental/10612)

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**Author:** [@system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/system)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [September 30, 2015, 11:23am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-you-escape-the-lab-challenge-in-the-latest-experimental/10612 "2015-09-30T11:23:04Z")

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The wiki page is super old, I think it was written when lab walls weren’t concrete. Can you still get out without explosives?

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## [Just a little thing i thought about involving the console's map editor](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/just-a-little-thing-i-thought-about-involving-the-consoles-map-editor/10614)

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**Author:** [@theactualpapabrando](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/theactualpapabrando)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [September 30, 2015, 12:18am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/just-a-little-thing-i-thought-about-involving-the-consoles-map-editor/10614 "2015-09-30T00:18:36Z")

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After that hectic registration i went through, hello fellow survivors! haha, I’m working/playing around on this world with the map editor and there is an option to blatantly kill all the enemies, but none just to disable…

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## [Minor Bug - Defense Mode - Lighter Price](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/minor-bug-defense-mode-lighter-price/10615)

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**Author:** [@Dampe](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Dampe)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [September 30, 2015, 12:16am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/minor-bug-defense-mode-lighter-price/10615 "2015-09-30T00:16:22Z")

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Hiya. I’m playing on the latest experimental (I update every couple of days or so), and I’ve noticed that when you’re in the buy menu for defense mode, on the tab with the “lighter” item in it, as you scroll up and down…

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## [Cataclysm on Linux help \[Warning - Linux moron\]](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cataclysm-on-linux-help-warning-linux-moron/10587)

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**Author:** [@Born\_tobe\_Mild](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Born_tobe_Mild)\
**Replies:** 19\
**Last updated:** [September 29, 2015, 10:38pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cataclysm-on-linux-help-warning-linux-moron/10587 "2015-09-29T22:38:49Z")

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\- The Garage may not be the best place for this, feel free to move me! - Currently attempting to learn Linux, so I put Linux Mint on my secondary computer, I know only the basic stuff and some terminal commands. Not eno…

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## [Last Words](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/last-words/10603)

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**Author:** [@Dampe](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Dampe)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [September 29, 2015, 7:44pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/last-words/10603 "2015-09-29T19:44:37Z")

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Come one, come all, to bring your favorite characters’ pithy last words to be compiled on this thread. Some samples from mine: “THE CHEESE IS ON FIRE” “oh god spiders” “what the f- BOOOOOOOOOM!” “never set a mininuk…

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## [Annoying NPC Habits That Make Me Want to Eat a Mininuke](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/annoying-npc-habits-that-make-me-want-to-eat-a-mininuke/10602)

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**Author:** [@chimpdroid](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/chimpdroid)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [September 29, 2015, 3:59pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/annoying-npc-habits-that-make-me-want-to-eat-a-mininuke/10602 "2015-09-29T15:59:50Z")

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—What, Were You Raised in a Barn?— Even just the logic behind programming an NPC door-closing system is pretty straightforward, and I think it would add a lot to the game. As it stands, every time Grant Kincaid doesn’t…

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## [Technical Stuff](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/technical-stuff/10595)

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**Author:** [@COS\_Cecillian](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/COS_Cecillian)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [September 29, 2015, 1:20pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/technical-stuff/10595 "2015-09-29T13:20:24Z")

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Ok, so I am a total noob to Cataclysm, and some of the technical stuff behind it. Some questions I have: If you had a save file in stable, could you move it to experimental and how? How would one update the experiment…

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## [Assistance and advice regarding ammo type overlap](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/assistance-and-advice-regarding-ammo-type-overlap/10609)

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**Author:** [@Random\_dragon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Random_dragon)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [September 29, 2015, 1:19pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/assistance-and-advice-regarding-ammo-type-overlap/10609 "2015-09-29T13:19:48Z")

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So, I’m think once my current remaining PR is dealt with, I might see if I can take the initiative of implementing ammo type overlap. In theory it should be feasible to do, but I’d want advice and suggestions on how this…

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## [Power armor is for kitties](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/power-armor-is-for-kitties/10416)

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**Author:** [@Graphical](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Graphical)\
**Replies:** 55\
**Last updated:** [September 29, 2015, 12:22pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/power-armor-is-for-kitties/10416 "2015-09-29T12:22:02Z")

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So I just found A Mark II Light power armor and I cant wear a backpack, a holster, even a fucking purse. This is ridiculous. I know theres that addon for the power armors that gives you lotsa storage space, found it onc…

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## [Please help](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/please-help/10594)

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**Author:** [@Gwerty](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Gwerty)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [September 29, 2015, 1:17am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/please-help/10594 "2015-09-29T01:17:15Z")

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I am a new player to Cataclysm DDA and I just found a duffel back and a bunch of good stuff. I ran away from some zombies and came upon a different safe house than the one I spawned in. I went inside and went downstairs …

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## [Lets talk Tech](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/lets-talk-tech/10431)

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**Author:** [@stk2008](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/stk2008)\
**Replies:** 42\
**Last updated:** [September 29, 2015, 1:14am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/lets-talk-tech/10431 "2015-09-29T01:14:33Z")

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So I have been thinking. IRL we have mobile phones and tablets that can do all sorts of cool stuff. As it stands in CDDA the phone can only act as a clock and a low poered torch. I think it would be cool to allow more…

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## [What's your favorite weapon loadout?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/whats-your-favorite-weapon-loadout/10522)

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**Author:** [@Mastiffe](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Mastiffe)\
**Replies:** 85\
**Last updated:** [September 29, 2015, 12:18am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/whats-your-favorite-weapon-loadout/10522 "2015-09-29T00:18:58Z")

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My primary is recurve reflex bow with stabilizer and a large quiver of metal arrows. I find this bow combo tends to be as deadly as a shotgun, with slightly better range/damage potential. The metal arrows seem to last a …

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## [Chinese Weapons (Very Minor Lore Spoilers!)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/chinese-weapons-very-minor-lore-spoilers/10598)

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**Author:** [@Dampe](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Dampe)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [September 29, 2015, 12:08am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/chinese-weapons-very-minor-lore-spoilers/10598 "2015-09-29T00:08:53Z")

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I figure most people already know this, but in the Cataclysm world, the nation comes under attack by the Chinese (or the DPRK, but the former would be infinitely more likely.) Speaking in realistic terms, China is the on…

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## [Maybe baby bugs](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/maybe-baby-bugs/10565)

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**Author:** [@Litppunk](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Litppunk)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [September 28, 2015, 6:39pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/maybe-baby-bugs/10565 "2015-09-28T18:39:02Z")

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c.0 b47752d just a list of things that seem off this experimental. Going to get more official info/ look into it etc, but for now this will have to do. stairs glitch: going up or down stairs often results in a debug m…

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## [Z-levels are amazing and scary](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/z-levels-are-amazing-and-scary/10597)

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**Author:** [@altindiefanboy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/altindiefanboy)\
**Replies:** 22\
**Last updated:** [September 28, 2015, 4:42pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/z-levels-are-amazing-and-scary/10597 "2015-09-28T16:42:56Z")

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I’m on an x64 Debian system right now, running a version I just compiled from source, with tiles, Lua, and sound support: I enabled the Tall Buildings mod and the experimental z-level feature on world creation. I made a…

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## [0c65263 - XL gas mask](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0c65263-xl-gas-mask/10601)

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**Author:** [@zveroboy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/zveroboy)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [September 28, 2015, 3:19am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0c65263-xl-gas-mask/10601 "2015-09-28T03:19:38Z")

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i got the book ‘Guide to Advancet Emergency Care’ and foud that it holds two recipes of XL gas mask. i looked to recipe\_armor.json and saw two recipes of XL gas mask but one of them with ‘expand-existing’. is it normal t…

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## [Kevin, can we make PC can put out fire like Caves of Qud?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/kevin-can-we-make-pc-can-put-out-fire-like-caves-of-qud/10596)

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**Author:** [@vipches](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/vipches)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [September 28, 2015, 12:31am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/kevin-can-we-make-pc-can-put-out-fire-like-caves-of-qud/10596 "2015-09-28T00:31:38Z")

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There is one game called “Caves of Qud” just appear on http://www.roguebasin.com/ few days ago, and it’s reference guide said, “If you should find yourself in the unfortunate state of being on-fire, you can lower your t…

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## [Man the guns (and other NPC suggestions)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/man-the-guns-and-other-npc-suggestions/10088)

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**Author:** [@Random\_dragon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Random_dragon)\
**Replies:** 14\
**Last updated:** [September 27, 2015, 6:55pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/man-the-guns-and-other-npc-suggestions/10088 "2015-09-27T18:55:00Z")

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I’m wondering how practical it would be to add a few further additions to flesh out NPC behavior, in particular that of recruited NPCs. Spoiler due to idea dump: \[spoiler\]First, getting them to man turrets. You can nud…

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## [\[Bug\]Advanced seed drills useless](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bug-advanced-seed-drills-useless/10600)

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**Author:** [@Malaxxor](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Malaxxor)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [September 27, 2015, 6:23pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bug-advanced-seed-drills-useless/10600 "2015-09-27T18:23:00Z")

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So, I hope this isn’t me fucking something up, but it seems that the item “advanced seed drill” is useless atm, as installing the “advanced seed drill” vehicle part takes a normal seed drill.

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## [0c65263 - UPS and items](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0c65263-ups-and-items/10562)

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**Author:** [@zveroboy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/zveroboy)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [September 27, 2015, 2:45pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0c65263-ups-and-items/10562 "2015-09-27T14:45:33Z")

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I got three problems: I shot zombie and got LASP laser pistol and the error message that the system can not create a UPS (ammunition for this laser). I speak to the NPC, and when asked to tell something about thems…

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## [OSX Experimental build problems](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/osx-experimental-build-problems/10593)

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**Author:** [@Telkoth](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Telkoth)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [September 27, 2015, 3:00am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/osx-experimental-build-problems/10593 "2015-09-27T03:00:10Z")

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I’m running into trouble building the experimental ver on OSX. I was able to make the regular version using the compile guide no problems. Can anyone point me in the right direction. Cheers Following the guide found he…

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## [Uninstalled Empty Welding Rig Supercedes Installed Vehicle Welding Rig](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/uninstalled-empty-welding-rig-supercedes-installed-vehicle-welding-rig/10520)

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**Author:** [@Mastiffe](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Mastiffe)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [September 26, 2015, 3:30pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/uninstalled-empty-welding-rig-supercedes-installed-vehicle-welding-rig/10520 "2015-09-26T15:30:16Z")

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I had an old Welding Rig I’d found on the roadside (really bad condition, showing zero charges) that I decided to hold on to as a backup. I got back to the vehicle and stashed it in my installed Vehicle Welding Rig’s sto…

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## [Why aren't my legs encumbered?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/why-arent-my-legs-encumbered/10589)

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**Author:** [@skoormit](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/skoormit)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [September 25, 2015, 9:03pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/why-arent-my-legs-encumbered/10589 "2015-09-25T21:03:41Z")

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0.C stable. Currently wearing on my legs: Sheath (waist) Drop leg pouches (strapped) Knee pads (strapped) Duster (outer) Leather chaps (outer) All items have encumbrance 0 and fit me perfectly. All items except t…

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## [Snippets and notes](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/snippets-and-notes/10585)

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**Author:** [@zveroboy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/zveroboy)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [September 25, 2015, 6:15pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/snippets-and-notes/10585 "2015-09-25T18:15:35Z")

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hi everyone! I did mod there is the notes of a new type (used books.json and snippets.json), but all of notes aare contain the same text, which stands first in snippets.json, not different. How do I fix this?

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## [Need help with melee combat](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/need-help-with-melee-combat/10588)

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**Author:** [@yellowdog](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/yellowdog)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [September 25, 2015, 6:08pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/need-help-with-melee-combat/10588 "2015-09-25T18:08:28Z")

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Hello guys, I could need some help with Melee combat. In versions Kaufman and Brin I could fashion a nail board and if there weren’t too many zombies I was set. Now in Cooper almost nothing works right. Combat Styles hav…

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## [Question about combat styles](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/question-about-combat-styles/10586)

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**Author:** [@skoormit](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/skoormit)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [September 25, 2015, 4:10pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/question-about-combat-styles/10586 "2015-09-25T16:10:28Z")

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I’m sure this must be explained somewhere, but I can’t find it. I have read a book and learned the Niten Ichi-Ryu style. When empty handed, I can hit the \_ key and select Niten Ichi-Ryu. When I do so, “Niten Ichi-Ryu”…

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## [\[SOLVED\] Selecting "Worn Items" with Item Comparison Tool \[/NOT A BUG\]](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/solved-selecting-worn-items-with-item-comparison-tool-not-a-bug/10561)

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**Author:** [@tomthenomad](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/tomthenomad)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [September 25, 2015, 10:00am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/solved-selecting-worn-items-with-item-comparison-tool-not-a-bug/10561 "2015-09-25T10:00:59Z")

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cataclysmdda-0.C-3703.zip (bug is also present in stable builds) SDL Windows 7 64bit Description: Unable to select worn clothing items when using item comparison tool. “I” More details: When I use the item comparison…

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## [What the deal with backpacks?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-the-deal-with-backpacks/10434)

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**Author:** [@Artyom177](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Artyom177)\
**Replies:** 28\
**Last updated:** [September 24, 2015, 11:38pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-the-deal-with-backpacks/10434 "2015-09-24T23:38:42Z")

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So everyone knows that a backpack is essential in surviving in Cada. You need it to store ammo, food, water, and supplies, and also what ever weird shit you found in that lab over there. And I don’t know where you guys l…

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