# Game Talk

**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/c/game-talk/27.md?page=292

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## [Bows crash when fired](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bows-crash-when-fired/11433)

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**Author:** [@Moonfuzor](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Moonfuzor)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [February 20, 2016, 8:25am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bows-crash-when-fired/11433 "2016-02-20T08:25:55Z")

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Hey, this is the same guy from the gun bug, yes i went with it and yes changing it to 120 works for guns. Only problem is that bows now refuse to fire, and crash my game i changed it to 130 50 something and it still cras…

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## [Experimental 4438 No xp from soldering](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/experimental-4438-no-xp-from-soldering/11432)

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**Author:** [@Lordpawn](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Lordpawn)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [February 20, 2016, 5:48am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/experimental-4438-no-xp-from-soldering/11432 "2016-02-20T05:48:21Z")

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Just downloaded the new experimental and immediately noticed I no longer get mechanic xp form soldering any tools to reinforced. Edit. Did some testing and xp for tailoring still works but you definitely get no mechani…

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## [0.C-10917-gff691e8 \[4422\] - Reloading crossbow causes crash](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-c-10917-gff691e8-4422-reloading-crossbow-causes-crash/11426)

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**Author:** [@Random\_dragon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Random_dragon)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [February 20, 2016, 1:40am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-c-10917-gff691e8-4422-reloading-crossbow-causes-crash/11426 "2016-02-20T01:40:24Z")

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Exactly what it says on the tin. Attempted to reload an unloaded crossbow (More Survival Tools, started as a Wanderer) and it simply freezes up.

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## [Experimental latest version, reloading a gun with a magazine causes a crash](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/experimental-latest-version-reloading-a-gun-with-a-magazine-causes-a-crash/11429)

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**Author:** [@Moonfuzor](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Moonfuzor)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [February 19, 2016, 9:54pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/experimental-latest-version-reloading-a-gun-with-a-magazine-causes-a-crash/11429 "2016-02-19T21:54:42Z")

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While i was playing cataclysm dda i was playing a fresh secruity guard proffesion, and as for th start i reloaded my magazine and reloaded my gun it caused a game crash. After going cataclysm live chat and talking with t…

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## [Bow's won't work anymore](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bows-wont-work-anymore/11409)

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**Author:** [@AdonaiJr](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/AdonaiJr)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [February 19, 2016, 9:26pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bows-wont-work-anymore/11409 "2016-02-19T21:26:49Z")

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Bow’s of any kind are not working anymore. It says it’s “out of ammo” even - off course - there’s ammo in inventory or quiver. I asked people on IRC chat yesterday, and It was confirmed. My guess it’s a bug related to t…

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## [Liquid in inventory 0.c-10129-g6fcc2b7](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/liquid-in-inventory-0-c-10129-g6fcc2b7/11406)

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**Author:** [@dakenho](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/dakenho)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [February 19, 2016, 3:38pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/liquid-in-inventory-0-c-10129-g6fcc2b7/11406 "2016-02-19T15:38:51Z")

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I had a problem in my current game where when reloading a soda can stove kit the remaining ethanol was placed in my inventory out side a bottle. I could drop the ethanol but not pick back up and i could not figure out h…

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## [Fixing driving skill](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/fixing-driving-skill/11430)

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**Author:** [@Coolthulhu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Coolthulhu)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [February 19, 2016, 1:55pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/fixing-driving-skill/11430 "2016-02-19T13:55:50Z")

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What driving skill does: \[ul\]\[li\]If it is less than 4, you randomly turn left or right while driving. Doesn’t depend on speed.\[/li\] \[li\]Once above that, it only helps to avoid skidding during handbraking and to recover…

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## [Possible bug: layers of clothes gets damages by inverted order. Again](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/possible-bug-layers-of-clothes-gets-damages-by-inverted-order-again/11431)

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**Author:** [@Firestorm\_01](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Firestorm_01)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [February 19, 2016, 11:44am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/possible-bug-layers-of-clothes-gets-damages-by-inverted-order-again/11431 "2016-02-19T11:44:53Z")

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0.C -10944-g254035 SDL Windows 7 There was bug then layeers of clothes gets damage by inverted order. I correclty remebmer that it was fixed. But I have reasons to suspect that bug was returned. My character’s under…

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## [Welder needed to install a wheel?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/welder-needed-to-install-a-wheel/11428)

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**Author:** [@Ferodaktyl](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ferodaktyl)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [February 19, 2016, 7:25am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/welder-needed-to-install-a-wheel/11428 "2016-02-19T07:25:55Z")

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It’s a bit (well, a lot) stupid, what kind of wheel would need a welder to mount it on a car ? Or ducttape… Please remove the need for a welder to change wheels :slight\_smile:

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## [Vehicular Farming](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vehicular-farming/11354)

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**Author:** [@ethanwdp](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ethanwdp)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [February 18, 2016, 8:11am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vehicular-farming/11354 "2016-02-18T08:11:08Z")

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I want to plant vehicles in my seeds. Wait, I mean I want to plant seeds in my vehicles. Vehicles have many utilities that can be placed in them - renewable energy, a water gathering & purification system, a fridge, we…

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## [0.C-10917-gff691e8 - Small Storage Battery cannot be crafted (?)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-c-10917-gff691e8-small-storage-battery-cannot-be-crafted/11427)

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**Author:** [@system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/system)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [February 18, 2016, 2:17am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-c-10917-gff691e8-small-storage-battery-cannot-be-crafted/11427 "2016-02-18T02:17:53Z")

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It seems as though small storage batteries have disappeared from crafting. I am standing next to my bookshelf with 101 Crafts for Beginners, Advanced Electronics, Augmentative Tech Review 2041, DIY Compendium, Electroni…

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## [Union Suit encumbrance](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/union-suit-encumbrance/11417)

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**Author:** [@alamarx](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/alamarx)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [February 17, 2016, 11:35pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/union-suit-encumbrance/11417 "2016-02-17T23:35:26Z")

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Ok I know this is a very minor thing, and it might not qualify as a bug, but it bugs me to no end. Both top and bottom long underwear are encumbrance 1, but the union suit is encumbrance 2. They offer the same coverage,…

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## [Experimental Build Questions: Mutant Followers?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/experimental-build-questions-mutant-followers/11424)

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**Author:** [@secretfire](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/secretfire)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [February 17, 2016, 11:05pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/experimental-build-questions-mutant-followers/11424 "2016-02-17T23:05:33Z")

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I saw in the experimental changelog a few weeks back that they’d added in stuff for NPC mutations. And then stuff to give things to NPCs. But I can’t seem to get my followers to inject themselves with insect serum so I …

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## [Proposition: Eidetic Locator CBM](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/proposition-eidetic-locator-cbm/11416)

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**Author:** [@BeerBeer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BeerBeer)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [February 17, 2016, 9:31pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/proposition-eidetic-locator-cbm/11416 "2016-02-17T21:31:43Z")

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The Lore Using the cutting edge technology in neural stimulation prior to the Cataclysm, with this CBM you possess the uncanny ability to recall the location of any item you’ve ever seen, smelled, heard, touched, tasted…

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## [0.C-10326-gd08fe5a - NPCs with certain guns unable to shoot? (Magazine related?)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-c-10326-gd08fe5a-npcs-with-certain-guns-unable-to-shoot-magazine-related/11378)

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**Author:** [@BeerBeer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BeerBeer)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [February 17, 2016, 5:40pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-c-10326-gd08fe5a-npcs-with-certain-guns-unable-to-shoot-magazine-related/11378 "2016-02-17T17:40:28Z")

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\#4343, Win7, tiles I forgot to report this earlier so let’s see what I remember. I got the mission to provoke a certain NPC to attack me. I do that, and I notice the NPC is holding a USP pistol (I think, not sure). I go…

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## [Lab invasion techniques](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/lab-invasion-techniques/11400)

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**Author:** [@Coolthulhu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Coolthulhu)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [February 17, 2016, 4:44pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/lab-invasion-techniques/11400 "2016-02-17T16:44:48Z")

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If you can enter a lab from outside in early game, you most likely do it with a science card and thus don’t need to deal with the turret.

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## [Crashing while minimized](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crashing-while-minimized/11388)

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**Author:** [@Zrau](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Zrau)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [February 16, 2016, 7:11pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crashing-while-minimized/11388 "2016-02-16T19:11:09Z")

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Hi The 0.C version will randomly crash while minimized after 30 seconds to a few minutes. So if I spend too long changing music or whatever I’ll lose progress. Didn’t have this issue 0.A at all which is the last version…

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## [Blood Mage Start](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/blood-mage-start/11407)

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**Author:** [@Shrde](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Shrde)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [February 16, 2016, 5:51pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/blood-mage-start/11407 "2016-02-16T17:51:25Z")

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Can anyone give me advice. I am using the arcane mod and doing a blood mage start and i die in seconds. Any way this start is playable

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## [Better Slingshots](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/better-slingshots/11419)

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**Author:** [@Substance](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Substance)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [February 16, 2016, 9:20am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/better-slingshots/11419 "2016-02-16T09:20:07Z")

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I got this idea after playing a few runs with Slings and Slingshots. I checked the Item Browser, and there are currently 3 Sling-type weapons. All of them shoot Pebbles (or applicable substitutes). There’s also a neat …

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## [Make Triffid Queens extremely slow](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/make-triffid-queens-extremely-slow/11412)

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**Author:** [@Bob\_Namg](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bob_Namg)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [February 15, 2016, 5:05am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/make-triffid-queens-extremely-slow/11412 "2016-02-15T05:05:01Z")

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Triffid Queens not only have a strong attack but they also have an OP power of which they can grow entire forests under their feet as they chase you through town. The issue here is that they do so at a high speed, thusly…

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## [Suggestions regarding the future of hordes](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/suggestions-regarding-the-future-of-hordes/11410)

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**Author:** [@Canine](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Canine)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [February 15, 2016, 1:05am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/suggestions-regarding-the-future-of-hordes/11410 "2016-02-15T01:05:26Z")

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With hordes v2 being as I understand under development I believe there is massive potential to make mid to late game much more interesting. I have a few suggestions on how the biggest of such hordes could work. Firstly…

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## [Water Bear (AKA, Fat Bug Tank)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/water-bear-aka-fat-bug-tank/11318)

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**Author:** [@Wally-kun](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Wally-kun)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [February 14, 2016, 5:19pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/water-bear-aka-fat-bug-tank/11318 "2016-02-14T17:19:46Z")

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There was a suggestion a while ago for a Water Bear creature in the game. This is my interpretation of that creature. Because I was using an outdated version of the game, I’ll simply add the changes that I made to the c…

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## [Player Aging System](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/player-aging-system/11403)

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**Author:** [@chriswalt](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/chriswalt)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [February 14, 2016, 4:28pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/player-aging-system/11403 "2016-02-14T16:28:08Z")

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Greetings everyone! Now, I must first admit, I am quite new to this wonderful game and community (having only discovered it yesterday), so I apologize for possibly seeming a bit “newbish” with this suggestion. So, one o…

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## [Cant see vehicle speed](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cant-see-vehicle-speed/11408)

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**Author:** [@johncolobe](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/johncolobe)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [February 14, 2016, 3:47pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cant-see-vehicle-speed/11408 "2016-02-14T15:47:56Z")

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no idea why. it just stopped showing up in a past experimental build. ive scoured the forums and havent seen anything related to this issue. i was thinking it was some minor change in option selection that i didnt notic…

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## [0.C-10635-g4473259 - 9x18mm ammo yields large rifle primers](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-c-10635-g4473259-9x18mm-ammo-yields-large-rifle-primers/11405)

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**Author:** [@BeerBeer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BeerBeer)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [February 14, 2016, 1:35am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-c-10635-g4473259-9x18mm-ammo-yields-large-rifle-primers/11405 "2016-02-14T01:35:48Z")

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The description of any non-handloaded 9x18mm says they’ll yield large rifle primers. They… probably should yield small pistol primers instead, right?

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## [Block vs Parry](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/block-vs-parry/11373)

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**Author:** [@Shrde](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Shrde)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [February 14, 2016, 1:34am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/block-vs-parry/11373 "2016-02-14T01:34:23Z")

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What is better to have and if there equal what are pros and cons

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## [Acid is OPed](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/acid-is-oped/11385)

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**Author:** [@pisskop](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/pisskop)\
**Replies:** 41\
**Last updated:** [February 13, 2016, 8:44pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/acid-is-oped/11385 "2016-02-13T20:44:50Z")

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Or, more specifically, in the early and mid games, acid is one of the most lethal parts of the game to a survivor. You know what my 3rd or 4th most common death in the first day is? Acidic zombies barfing on me when Im…

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## [Style balancing](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/style-balancing/11347)

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**Author:** [@Coolthulhu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Coolthulhu)\
**Replies:** 17\
**Last updated:** [February 13, 2016, 9:50am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/style-balancing/11347 "2016-02-13T09:50:18Z")

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There are some weird styles that are hard to balance: \[ul\]\[li\]Dragon’s gimmick of intelligence boosting damage is quite bad, but its techniques are really solid: stun on non-crit, counter on both block and dodge, knockb…

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## [Is yeast growing difficulty intended?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-yeast-growing-difficulty-intended/11397)

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**Author:** [@TeSparg](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TeSparg)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [February 12, 2016, 11:45pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-yeast-growing-difficulty-intended/11397 "2016-02-12T23:45:19Z")

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I can't find the glass flask that is required to make the yeast culture , and i was going to cheat in a glass flask for 1 glass jar and a rubber hose, but then this question raised up. Is it intended that you can't "gr…

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## [0.C-10600-ged89130 - Crash when viewing certain food recipes (solved?)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-c-10600-ged89130-crash-when-viewing-certain-food-recipes-solved/11398)

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**Author:** [@BeerBeer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BeerBeer)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [February 12, 2016, 1:25pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-c-10600-ged89130-crash-when-viewing-certain-food-recipes-solved/11398 "2016-02-12T13:25:39Z")

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\#4381 Win7 64-bit, tiles Bring up crafting menu Search for ‘seasoned’, hit Enter, and it should crash immediately Alternatively, search for ‘salt’, browse down to ‘seasoned salt’ and it should crash as well Edit 1: …

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