# Game Talk

**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/c/game-talk/27.md?page=274

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## [Unable to learn recipes from reading books](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unable-to-learn-recipes-from-reading-books/12057)

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**Author:** [@callista](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/callista)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [June 27, 2016, 1:50am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/unable-to-learn-recipes-from-reading-books/12057 "2016-06-27T01:50:09Z")

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I’ve got the latest version from the launcher and I’m finding it impossible to learn some recipes from books. For example, after clearing out a school, I was able to raise my fabrication skill to 10, but when reading “1…

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## [All the stable experimentals are gone](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/all-the-stable-experimentals-are-gone/12101)

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**Author:** [@BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BorkBorkGoesTheCode)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [June 27, 2016, 12:29am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/all-the-stable-experimentals-are-gone/12101 "2016-06-27T00:29:59Z")

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Does dev.narc.ro keep an archive of previous experimentals somewhere, because the recent PRs have pushed all the stable ones off the main page.

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## [Dark Wyrm spawns limits, etc](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/dark-wyrm-spawns-limits-etc/12113)

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**Author:** [@pingpong](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/pingpong)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [June 26, 2016, 11:46pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/dark-wyrm-spawns-limits-etc/12113 "2016-06-26T23:46:59Z")

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So I did the thing that makes dark worm waves, picture related. \[image\] They’re just burrowing through the ground, is there a spawn limit to them? I feel like letting them keep digging, maybe they’ll find something nea…

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## [Bugs again](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bugs-again/12109)

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**Author:** [@latogato](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/latogato)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [June 26, 2016, 3:06pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bugs-again/12109 "2016-06-26T15:06:55Z")

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5062 I was greeted by an agressive survivor while cooking. I agreed to leave, but she attacked me anyway because i didn’t stop cooking and my grace time elapsed. BTW, she threated me with “Thanks pilgrim!” and i still …

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## [Weapons disappearing when strapped (version 5129)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/weapons-disappearing-when-strapped-version-5129/12108)

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**Author:** [@Ronin1791](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ronin1791)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [June 25, 2016, 10:45pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/weapons-disappearing-when-strapped-version-5129/12108 "2016-06-25T22:45:09Z")

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Hey all, “Wearing” a ranged weapon with a shoulder strap gives the message “Putting on a \[weapon\] would be tricky” and makes the weapon disappear, but returns any weapon mods you had installed to your inventory.

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## [Restore Vehicle Lighting Controls (new system is...pain)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/restore-vehicle-lighting-controls-new-system-is-pain/12079)

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**Author:** [@Voqar](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Voqar)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [June 25, 2016, 5:38pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/restore-vehicle-lighting-controls-new-system-is-pain/12079 "2016-06-25T17:38:22Z")

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I suggest returning the vehicle lighting operation/menu/hotkeys/whatever you wanna call it (via vehicle control) back to how it was. I’m in a recent experimental and the changes to this completely suck. Talk about poin…

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## [Some Debug Traits are partially broken](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/some-debug-traits-are-partially-broken/12104)

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**Author:** [@Kadian](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Kadian)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [June 25, 2016, 12:50pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/some-debug-traits-are-partially-broken/12104 "2016-06-25T12:50:42Z")

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Not a bug per se, considering that the debug traits aren’t supposed to be used in a normal game, but fixing them would be a good idea nonetheless. Using Build 5129, but those issues are most likely a bit older already. T…

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## [Keeping NPCs SAFE!](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/keeping-npcs-safe/12044)

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**Author:** [@Graphical](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Graphical)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [June 25, 2016, 2:42am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/keeping-npcs-safe/12044 "2016-06-25T02:42:14Z")

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I would LOVE to see a simple mod, where you order an NPC to stay RIGHT BEHIND YOU and NOT ENGAGE. I always play night time and I lost count of the times an NPC straight up lost me. And is so sad. NPC follows the player…

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## [A different way to play](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-different-way-to-play/12067)

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**Author:** [@woofinator](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/woofinator)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [June 24, 2016, 8:06am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-different-way-to-play/12067 "2016-06-24T08:06:20Z")

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So one of the main complaints people have had recently has to do with the (very subjective) level of tedium involved in gameplay. I don’t wanna speak on that issue, I sort of just go with the notion that there’s a trade …

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## [Bug patches](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bug-patches/12073)

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**Author:** [@Rama\_Tut](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rama_Tut)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [June 23, 2016, 10:56pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bug-patches/12073 "2016-06-23T22:56:11Z")

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It’s great that Cataclysm is in active development, but it would be nice if the stable builds could get some official bug patches for major bugs which don’t include new material with all their own bugs. As a result of t…

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## [\[5107\] Stylish morale buff and filthy gear morale debuff error](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/5107-stylish-morale-buff-and-filthy-gear-morale-debuff-error/12095)

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**Author:** [@Alasnuyo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Alasnuyo)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [June 23, 2016, 12:16pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/5107-stylish-morale-buff-and-filthy-gear-morale-debuff-error/12095 "2016-06-23T12:16:31Z")

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Okay, I just ported over the save from 5081, which happens to suffer from the permanent morale debuff error to see if the newer experimental fixes stuff. No dice. Then when I wore filthy dress suit, the debuff (somehow)…

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## [SIMULTANEOUS firemode](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/simultaneous-firemode/12094)

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**Author:** [@BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BorkBorkGoesTheCode)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [June 23, 2016, 7:39am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/simultaneous-firemode/12094 "2016-06-23T07:39:00Z")

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How does it work?

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## [Integrated toolset no longer valid for vehicle construction](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/integrated-toolset-no-longer-valid-for-vehicle-construction/12092)

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**Author:** [@someguy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/someguy)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [June 23, 2016, 6:39am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/integrated-toolset-no-longer-valid-for-vehicle-construction/12092 "2016-06-23T06:39:05Z")

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In the latest experimental (15702-gaac586e) the integrated toolset no longer appears to be a valid welding tool when constructing vehicles. It still works fine in normal crafting.

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## [NPC'S are wayyyyyyyyyy too OP](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/npcs-are-wayyyyyyyyyy-too-op/12093)

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**Author:** [@theepicvoid111](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/theepicvoid111)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [June 23, 2016, 4:59am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/npcs-are-wayyyyyyyyyy-too-op/12093 "2016-06-23T04:59:07Z")

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I got into an altercation with a female NPC when she told me to get out of the area and got hostile, I shot at her in multiple bursts with a TEC-9 and all she had left was a skirt and boots, I continued firing and she di…

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## [Very light sensitive mutation](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/very-light-sensitive-mutation/12089)

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**Author:** [@Fluffy\_Genocide\_Cudd](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Fluffy_Genocide_Cudd)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [June 22, 2016, 8:04pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/very-light-sensitive-mutation/12089 "2016-06-22T20:04:18Z")

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In-game I have the ‘Very light sensitive’ mutation. When I am outside there seem to be two things going wrong. Either I get no debuff at all (even though it’s during the day-time and I’m in the middle of a field), or und…

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## [Item enumerator miss](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/item-enumerator-miss/12087)

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**Author:** [@vivat](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/vivat)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [June 22, 2016, 9:59am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/item-enumerator-miss/12087 "2016-06-22T09:59:29Z")

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when i wish to cut for example pants (for rags) - i… disassemble clocks which lay near. i wear may of types of ruecksacks - many of types. maybe this helps? i go as packmule :slight\_smile: btw many-many early i not see…

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## [Bugs](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bugs/12050)

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**Author:** [@latogato](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/latogato)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [June 21, 2016, 8:05pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bugs/12050 "2016-06-21T20:05:30Z")

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5048 bugs dialog is wrong. NPC mission: someone forgot to code this message id is 78, topic is TALK\_MISSION\_OFFER. I use mods, so maybe it is a mod error? My car collided with a wreckage. Literally every part of the wr…

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## [Use of pickaxe go to crash](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/use-of-pickaxe-go-to-crash/12085)

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**Author:** [@vivat](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/vivat)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [June 21, 2016, 7:43pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/use-of-pickaxe-go-to-crash/12085 "2016-06-21T19:43:53Z")

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bug 0.c.5062 when i (A)-use pickaxe when i dig wall and last quiestion is floated - "you hurt! abort? y\\n" i choose Y and game crashes. if i choose N - all ok.

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## [Random NPC's spawned at bottom of Science lab (about -5 floor)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/random-npcs-spawned-at-bottom-of-science-lab-about-5-floor/12083)

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**Author:** [@Gio](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Gio)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [June 21, 2016, 5:57pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/random-npcs-spawned-at-bottom-of-science-lab-about-5-floor/12083 "2016-06-21T17:57:22Z")

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It happened about 10 exp. versions ago and i thought you should know guys. It was a rather strange place for an NPC tp offer me a mission (inside a mininuke storage area) and another 1 after some turns just happened to …

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## [Uniques](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/uniques/12040)

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**Author:** [@Rama\_Tut](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rama_Tut)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [June 21, 2016, 7:06am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/uniques/12040 "2016-06-21T07:06:20Z")

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I’ve been slowly working on a mod to change the theme of DDA from a future-science zombie apocalypse to a pulp fiction faux-Egyptian mummy curse apocalypse, and one of the things I’ve been trying to add is uniques. I th…

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## [Vehicle wheel error](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vehicle-wheel-error/12074)

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**Author:** [@Alasnuyo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Alasnuyo)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [June 20, 2016, 10:47pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vehicle-wheel-error/12074 "2016-06-20T22:47:55Z")

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When I update to the newest experimental, this happens when I tried starting my vehicle: \[spoiler\]\[image\]\[/spoiler\] The I’m using tank treads for wheels. Could it be the source of the problem? Additional information: …

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## ["your bicycle doesn't have an engine!"](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/your-bicycle-doesnt-have-an-engine/12078)

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**Author:** [@Bidyhackier](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bidyhackier)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [June 20, 2016, 9:11pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/your-bicycle-doesnt-have-an-engine/12078 "2016-06-20T21:11:27Z")

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when i’m trying to use a bicycle(foldable or not) i’m getting this message(i tested on a common one and debugged a foldable one)i dont know if the same is happening with all man-powered vehicles,and i’m totally dependant…

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## [Is it possible to blacklist the entire JSON files?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-it-possible-to-blacklist-the-entire-json-files/12077)

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**Author:** [@mco](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/mco)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [June 20, 2016, 7:59pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-it-possible-to-blacklist-the-entire-json-files/12077 "2016-06-20T19:59:58Z")

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I had an idea about a global mod, and now i wonder, is it possible for a mod to blacklist all recipe jsons, for example, without manually blacklisting or overwriting every item in the existing ones? Or maybe there’s a w…

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## [Extend first-aid training with dissection](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/extend-first-aid-training-with-dissection/12043)

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**Author:** [@pingpong](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/pingpong)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [June 20, 2016, 7:51pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/extend-first-aid-training-with-dissection/12043 "2016-06-20T19:51:32Z")

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First-aid could be switched to “medicine” or even “biology” and include studying life. If the game let you dissect enemies via applying a “fine cutting” tool, that could be used to train the skill. It could also be anoth…

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## [Filling 2L tank with 20L jerrycan empties the jerrycan](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/filling-2l-tank-with-20l-jerrycan-empties-the-jerrycan/12076)

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**Author:** [@Spleenbag](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Spleenbag)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [June 20, 2016, 4:21pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/filling-2l-tank-with-20l-jerrycan-empties-the-jerrycan/12076 "2016-06-20T16:21:42Z")

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Version 5062, tiled, Windows 7. The last mention of this in the forum was 2013. Sorry if I missed a more recent message. I had a 23% full jerrycan (~5L of gasoline, 13800 units) and I 'U’nloaded it into a vehicle with…

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## [Attempting to outline a proper bartering system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/attempting-to-outline-a-proper-bartering-system/12071)

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**Author:** [@BeerBeer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BeerBeer)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [June 20, 2016, 10:18am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/attempting-to-outline-a-proper-bartering-system/12071 "2016-06-20T10:18:44Z")

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An actual barter system, using the ‘bartering’ skill, might be nice, using probablities for striking (or failing to strike) a deal. The lower chance there is to strike a deal, the greater the XP reward. Level 0: The pla…

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## [0.C-15194: Wierd explosion damage?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-c-15194-wierd-explosion-damage/12062)

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**Author:** [@Solusphere](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Solusphere)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [June 20, 2016, 3:49am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-c-15194-wierd-explosion-damage/12062 "2016-06-20T03:49:12Z")

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Sorry for reporting a bug on a 5 day old build, but I’ve been avoiding the most recent experimentals due to all of that item actions fallout going on, and I haven’t seen any reports of this in the issues on github. I’ve…

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## [Experimental stability?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/experimental-stability/12038)

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**Author:** [@baldamundo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/baldamundo)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [June 20, 2016, 3:32am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/experimental-stability/12038 "2016-06-20T03:32:48Z")

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It seems like the experimentals from about the mid 4900s have had a lot of bugs and instability, so I’ve stuck on 4925 for a while. How stable are things now and is it worth my updating to 5032+?

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## [Risk of falling asleep while waiting](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/risk-of-falling-asleep-while-waiting/12059)

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**Author:** [@BeerBeer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BeerBeer)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [June 19, 2016, 7:59pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/risk-of-falling-asleep-while-waiting/12059 "2016-06-19T19:59:42Z")

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Perhaps tired characters, who engage in waiting, could sometimes fall asleep. This feature could pair and function with the sleep-related traits, so that Insomniacs are less likely to doze off than the Sleepy Heads. The…

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## [Ship\\boat-building - how to start](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ship-boat-building-how-to-start/12066)

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**Author:** [@vivat](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/vivat)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [June 19, 2016, 6:54pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ship-boat-building-how-to-start/12066 "2016-06-19T18:54:18Z")

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as I previously intended, and what to say, I decided to build a boat. but how to start? I have built bridges (though why? and I do not know) chopped planks, logs ready. a house burned for nails, made a wooden frame. …

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