# Game Talk

**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/c/game-talk/27.md?page=272

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## [Winter garb for all professions](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/winter-garb-for-all-professions/12058)

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**Author:** [@pisskop](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/pisskop)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [July 7, 2016, 7:38pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/winter-garb-for-all-professions/12058 "2016-07-07T19:38:24Z")

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Im looking to add winter gear for all professions. I would like to keep in mind circumstance, ability, and availibility of this gear. I would, in all other cases, try to balance them to keep them the same cost as they …

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## ["furnituring" my evac shelter](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/furnituring-my-evac-shelter/12144)

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**Author:** [@Bidyhackier](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bidyhackier)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [July 7, 2016, 6:11pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/furnituring-my-evac-shelter/12144 "2016-07-07T18:11:32Z")

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i feel my evac shelter is a bit…deserted,i removed all the benches and other thingies to get 2 by fours and now its completely blank apart from the working computer(which i cant understand how its still working.) my bas…

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## [XL Holster crafting requirements irritation](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/xl-holster-crafting-requirements-irritation/12178)

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**Author:** [@Caprice](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Caprice)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [July 7, 2016, 4:20pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/xl-holster-crafting-requirements-irritation/12178 "2016-07-07T16:20:10Z")

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The XL leg holster - despite being suitable for use with shotguns, smgs, and rifles, and requiring a minimum volume higher than most pistols without heavy modification - requires Pistol 3 to craft. It should probably re…

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## [Manhacks](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/manhacks/12156)

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**Author:** [@Gnorse](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Gnorse)\
**Replies:** 40\
**Last updated:** [July 7, 2016, 4:07pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/manhacks/12156 "2016-07-07T16:07:47Z")

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Most of my successful survivors who actually lived like 4 days instead of 1 get rekt by manhacks, thats why zombie scientists are in the top of my “dont fuck with list” along with moose and hulks so , how the fuck do yo…

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## [Got Basics , what to do now?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/got-basics-what-to-do-now/12172)

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**Author:** [@Gnorse](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Gnorse)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [July 7, 2016, 6:08am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/got-basics-what-to-do-now/12172 "2016-07-07T06:08:10Z")

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so i decided to settle down in an evac shelter , after boarding up everything but 2 front and 1 back door and making spiked pits around all doors and windows and setting up 3 makeshift funnels outside with gallon jugs fu…

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## [\[5160\] Old Guard quest line broken: couldn't find bandit\_camp\_1](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/5160-old-guard-quest-line-broken-couldnt-find-bandit-camp-1/12169)

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**Author:** [@LordHelmchen](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/LordHelmchen)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [July 6, 2016, 9:54pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/5160-old-guard-quest-line-broken-couldnt-find-bandit-camp-1/12169 "2016-07-06T21:54:56Z")

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Greetings! As the only other thread about this is almost a year old, I decided not to necro it… Trying to accept the third mission from the Old Guard Representative results in DEBUG: Couldn’t find bandit\_camp\_1 FUNCT…

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## [Some ideas I thought up :)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/some-ideas-i-thought-up/12173)

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**Author:** [@ZombiBunny](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ZombiBunny)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [July 6, 2016, 3:49pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/some-ideas-i-thought-up/12173 "2016-07-06T15:49:56Z")

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Some ideas I thought of that are very plausible given the scope of things in-game. Please feel free to comment this is my first post here and I’m curious to know what anybody thinks about my suggestions. working/buil…

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## [Are vehicle scoops working?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/are-vehicle-scoops-working/12171)

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**Author:** [@Bumpkin](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bumpkin)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [July 6, 2016, 2:41pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/are-vehicle-scoops-working/12171 "2016-07-06T14:41:06Z")

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Not sure if it’s a bug or if I’m just doing it wrong but I can’t seem to get vehicle scoops to pick anything up. I get the scoop sounds when I turn them on and I have a trunk, they just don’t pick anything up when I driv…

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## [Heating and AC in vehicles](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/heating-and-ac-in-vehicles/12167)

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**Author:** [@Necrosia](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Necrosia)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [July 5, 2016, 9:49pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/heating-and-ac-in-vehicles/12167 "2016-07-05T21:49:18Z")

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I haven’t seen any way to use or add heating/AC systems to vehicles, and I’ve seen them discussed and suggested quite a lot. Are they in the game? If not, will they ever be?

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## [Dragging things up and down stairs](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/dragging-things-up-and-down-stairs/12155)

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**Author:** [@Rama\_Tut](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rama_Tut)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [July 5, 2016, 6:52am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/dragging-things-up-and-down-stairs/12155 "2016-07-05T06:52:19Z")

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Is there a game balance reason not to allow objects to be dragged up and down stairs? Because from a purely realism and RP standpoint, it seems like sufficiently small and sufficiently light objects should be capable of…

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## [5177 - 5194?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/5177-5194/12161)

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**Author:** [@Necrosia](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Necrosia)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [July 4, 2016, 9:21pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/5177-5194/12161 "2016-07-04T21:21:43Z")

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Is Build 5194 bugged, or 5177? Was there some kind of problem with the builds? Not sure which version to get now with this sudden jump of 17 releases.

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## [On crutches - fences roam? - it's SOME! :)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/on-crutches-fences-roam-its-some/12088)

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**Author:** [@vivat](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/vivat)\
**Replies:** 41\
**Last updated:** [July 4, 2016, 4:45pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/on-crutches-fences-roam-its-some/12088 "2016-07-04T16:45:56Z")

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on crutches - fences roam? - It is off the hook! maybe someday in the future, the author will be able to “unlearn” the players character, if his legs in “tires” (for the legs broke completely, foot health = 0) to climb …

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## [Easter eggs, ostridge eggs, and steve the talking bush](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/easter-eggs-ostridge-eggs-and-steve-the-talking-bush/12081)

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**Author:** [@Litppunk](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Litppunk)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [July 4, 2016, 4:36pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/easter-eggs-ostridge-eggs-and-steve-the-talking-bush/12081 "2016-07-04T16:36:19Z")

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What interesting little features and funny bits have you found that you overlooked 1’000 times before? What have you oh mighty finder of half secrets have you found that we of the blindfolds are ignorant of? Decided to …

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## [\[5165\] Extracting clay and sand mounds broken](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/5165-extracting-clay-and-sand-mounds-broken/12143)

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**Author:** [@Bumpkin](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bumpkin)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [July 3, 2016, 10:48pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/5165-extracting-clay-and-sand-mounds-broken/12143 "2016-07-03T22:48:00Z")

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\[image\] It then creates a charcoal kiln for a clay mound or an empty metal window frame for a sand mound.

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## [None?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/none/12157)

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**Author:** [@Gnorse](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Gnorse)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [July 3, 2016, 10:44pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/none/12157 "2016-07-03T22:44:48Z")

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latest experemental , NPCs show up wielding “none” and when i kill them i can take their “none” which has no description and i can only drop it , if i try to throw it , activate it ext … it says “you dont have it” or som…

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## [Cable Charger Bionic at full charge](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cable-charger-bionic-at-full-charge/12148)

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**Author:** [@Caprice](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Caprice)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [July 3, 2016, 10:43pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cable-charger-bionic-at-full-charge/12148 "2016-07-03T22:43:02Z")

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The cable charger bionic still draws power from vehicle batteries even when the player’s bionic power is full. If this behavior is intended, some warning would be appreciated - because plugging in before going to bed se…

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## [\[5177\] Memorizing recepies from books bug](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/5177-memorizing-recepies-from-books-bug/12152)

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**Author:** [@Firestorm\_01](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Firestorm_01)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [July 3, 2016, 12:29pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/5177-memorizing-recepies-from-books-bug/12152 "2016-07-03T12:29:05Z")

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https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/issues/17506 Build 5177. Tiles Windows X64 Get character with survival 0; Get book "Outdoor adventures"; Read book "Outdoor adventures" to raise survival to level 1; "Outdoo…

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## [Pirate shipwreck scenario](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/pirate-shipwreck-scenario/12149)

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**Author:** [@Bidyhackier](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bidyhackier)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [July 3, 2016, 9:54am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/pirate-shipwreck-scenario/12149 "2016-07-03T09:54:07Z")

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the pirate scenario would be as follows:you spawn on the basement a shipwreck(wood made instead of steel made,and without razorclaws) full of zeds and rum,and there would be 5 professions if you choose the scenario: +1 …

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## [Vehicle refueling?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vehicle-refueling/12150)

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**Author:** [@mwswimmer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/mwswimmer)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [July 3, 2016, 6:59am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vehicle-refueling/12150 "2016-07-03T06:59:10Z")

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Has vehicular refueling changed in any significant way, it seems that my rubber hose and full jerrycan refuses to fill my fully functional gas tank, the same old way was used examine vehicle and refill but it refuses to …

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## [\[5165\] Bug trying to build a charcoal kiln makes an error report](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/5165-bug-trying-to-build-a-charcoal-kiln-makes-an-error-report/12140)

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**Author:** [@Metallic](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Metallic)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [July 2, 2016, 9:47pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/5165-bug-trying-to-build-a-charcoal-kiln-makes-an-error-report/12140 "2016-07-02T21:47:29Z")

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So I was trying to build a charcoal kiln with 40 stones and I get an error: Attempted a recipe with no available components! And then a block of reinforced glass appears instead. Tried it 3 times and got the same thing…

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## [\[5170\] Cutting grass creates rock forge](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/5170-cutting-grass-creates-rock-forge/12147)

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**Author:** [@electricmonk9](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/electricmonk9)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [July 2, 2016, 9:47pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/5170-cutting-grass-creates-rock-forge/12147 "2016-07-02T21:47:00Z")

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I used the \* menu and found the option to “cut down grass”. When I select this I get an error message saying “Attempted recipe with no available components!” and the grass turns into a rock forge.

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## [Stylish And Tacky](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stylish-and-tacky/12132)

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**Author:** [@Catfoodbob](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Catfoodbob)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [July 2, 2016, 9:32pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stylish-and-tacky/12132 "2016-07-02T21:32:14Z")

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There is a point where wearing too much of a similar category of things would be considered tacky, like example. 2 golden rings, two golden bracelets, 2 golden watches, 2 golden earrings, 2 golden necklaces, and all that…

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## [Eating dirt](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/eating-dirt/12110)

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**Author:** [@Slax](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Slax)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [July 2, 2016, 7:50pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/eating-dirt/12110 "2016-07-02T19:50:30Z")

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Geophagia! It ain’t great but it might just keep you alive. Beware of shitting bricks.

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## [Firefighters pretty good](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/firefighters-pretty-good/12133)

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**Author:** [@Catfoodbob](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Catfoodbob)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [July 2, 2016, 2:58am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/firefighters-pretty-good/12133 "2016-07-02T02:58:36Z")

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When you start as a firefighter, its always nice to start out in a burning building, for you have an really good chance of immediate survival. Another thing that is good is most zeds cannot hurt you easily for you have s…

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## [Charging standard car batteries](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/charging-standard-car-batteries/12137)

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**Author:** [@Necrosia](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Necrosia)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [July 1, 2016, 5:41am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/charging-standard-car-batteries/12137 "2016-07-01T05:41:35Z")

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I’m lost on how to charge standard car batteries without using jumper cables. My car’s alternator, battery, and engine are all green. I have plenty of gas. However, leaving my engine running results in my battery drainin…

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## [What is the latest stable experimental build?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-is-the-latest-stable-experimental-build/11808)

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**Author:** [@Dead\_End\_Road](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Dead_End_Road)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [July 1, 2016, 4:48am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-is-the-latest-stable-experimental-build/11808 "2016-07-01T04:48:32Z")

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I haven’t played in awhile and the latest stable build i have is 0.C-4110 I was wondering if i should just go back to that or get the latest?

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## [Going Berserk](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/going-berserk/12136)

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**Author:** [@Catfoodbob](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Catfoodbob)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [July 1, 2016, 1:39am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/going-berserk/12136 "2016-07-01T01:39:26Z")

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Certain monsters, if you push them too much, push them too hard, they will get angry, very angry. and with that, it berserk would probably be some form of self buff that makes any ordinary moose “or boar” significantly m…

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## [Female archaeologist getting a "lara croft" set](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/female-archaeologist-getting-a-lara-croft-set/12115)

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**Author:** [@Bidyhackier](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bidyhackier)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [July 1, 2016, 12:34am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/female-archaeologist-getting-a-lara-croft-set/12115 "2016-07-01T00:34:47Z")

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\[ul\]at least for me,the 2 most famous fictional archaeologists are indiana jones and lara croft (which are luckily a male and a female).As i already checked its possible to make,but i’m too lazy to do it.So we could giv…

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## [Just some more trait ideas](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/just-some-more-trait-ideas/12139)

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**Author:** [@bananaedmonkey](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/bananaedmonkey)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [July 1, 2016, 12:30am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/just-some-more-trait-ideas/12139 "2016-07-01T00:30:33Z")

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just some trait ideas i have Pyromaniac - morale boost from starting fires and being around fires. (can’t think of a good name for this trait) - when a NPC says “drop your weapon” you have an inability to oblige. Be…

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## [Location modifiers](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/location-modifiers/12138)

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**Author:** [@bananaedmonkey](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/bananaedmonkey)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [June 30, 2016, 7:07pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/location-modifiers/12138 "2016-06-30T19:07:03Z")

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I would like to suggest the idea of changing our place in the world. For example: Location: Texas (costs X points) Pros: 500% more guns and gun stores Warmer winter Cons: Hotter summer NPCs less willing chat and…

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