# Game Talk

**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/c/game-talk/27.md?page=260

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## [How does sound work?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-does-sound-work/12754)

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**Author:** [@Chezzo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Chezzo)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [October 19, 2016, 10:02am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-does-sound-work/12754 "2016-10-19T10:02:36Z")

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Someone on IRC said that shooting a gun has sound 30, so it goes for 30 tiles. Why does it seem to draw zombies in from the whole map in hordes mode? Someone else said, “It is 30 map tiles, not 30 regular tiles.” Does …

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## [Need help understanding this code](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/need-help-understanding-this-code/12747)

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**Author:** [@BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BorkBorkGoesTheCode)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [October 19, 2016, 4:53am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/need-help-understanding-this-code/12747 "2016-10-19T04:53:13Z")

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I am trying to find a way to convert the hardcoded swim fin movement bonus into a flag. What does this code do? action.cpp \[code\]bool can\_move\_vertical\_at( const tripoint &p, int movez ) 476 { 477 // TODO: unify t…

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## [0.C-5732 - Vehicle vanished](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-c-5732-vehicle-vanished/12753)

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**Author:** [@proxiehunter](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/proxiehunter)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [October 18, 2016, 10:46pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-c-5732-vehicle-vanished/12753 "2016-10-18T22:46:56Z")

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I’m at a refugee center and I’m pulling my travois loaded with all of my food and various bulky things I thought might be useful once I established a base and all of a sudden I notice it’s gone along with everything I ha…

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## [Avoiding Death by Deathmobile](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/avoiding-death-by-deathmobile/12729)

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**Author:** [@Pandromidal](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Pandromidal)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [October 18, 2016, 9:10pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/avoiding-death-by-deathmobile/12729 "2016-10-18T21:10:47Z")

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My reasonably late game character, is working on a second death mobile after my first one was destroyed in an unfortunate accident involving half a dozen triffid queens. I’ve heard a number of stories on the forum, and w…

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## [Wooden Clogs' semi-useless wood cloning exploit. ( Experimental 5721 )](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/wooden-clogs-semi-useless-wood-cloning-exploit-experimental-5721/12752)

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**Author:** [@KiBoy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KiBoy)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [October 18, 2016, 11:19am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/wooden-clogs-semi-useless-wood-cloning-exploit-experimental-5721/12752 "2016-10-18T11:19:16Z")

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It’s really simple. Make a pair of wooden clogs ( fabrication 3 ) using 2 pieces of splintered wood. Cut them up You’ll get 4-5 pieces of splintered wood in return. As I’ve mentioned in the topic, it’s fairly useless …

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## [Apply magazine system to batteries and add different battery types](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/apply-magazine-system-to-batteries-and-add-different-battery-types/11642)

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**Author:** [@BFG1992](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BFG1992)\
**Replies:** 15\
**Last updated:** [October 18, 2016, 4:00am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/apply-magazine-system-to-batteries-and-add-different-battery-types/11642 "2016-10-18T04:00:08Z")

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Hello, devs and users :slight\_smile: A few days ago I’ve came up with a nice idea I wanted to share. What is a battery? It’s a small cylinder or box which has elecrolyte inside and capable of holding some amount of char…

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## [Telling npc's what to do](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/telling-npcs-what-to-do/12724)

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**Author:** [@Maarberg](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Maarberg)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [October 18, 2016, 3:14am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/telling-npcs-what-to-do/12724 "2016-10-18T03:14:43Z")

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Hey, I’m playing with 4 npc’s. I’m really enjoying them. but i’m kinda frustrated with the UI for interacting with them. I have to talk to each one individualy. i’d love a group conversation. “everyone pick up everythin…

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## [Plans for fixing missions?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/plans-for-fixing-missions/12746)

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**Author:** [@Solusphere](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Solusphere)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [October 18, 2016, 1:53am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/plans-for-fixing-missions/12746 "2016-10-18T01:53:49Z")

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So I think it’s pretty clear that the NPC missions are far and away the most prominently broken thing in the game right now. It’s also clear that the team is currently treating reports related to the mission system with …

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## [What was your biggest facepalm?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-was-your-biggest-facepalm/12678)

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**Author:** [@snow\_dwarf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/snow_dwarf)\
**Replies:** 34\
**Last updated:** [October 17, 2016, 7:01am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-was-your-biggest-facepalm/12678 "2016-10-17T07:01:41Z")

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What’s the biggest facepalm you had? I currently have a good thing going with Kevin and I think he is one of my guys that survived in a city the longest (I’m pretty new to the game). So I was looting this town and I got…

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## [How to chop down a tree with a hand axe?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-chop-down-a-tree-with-a-hand-axe/12742)

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**Author:** [@Rafe](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rafe)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [October 17, 2016, 1:56am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-chop-down-a-tree-with-a-hand-axe/12742 "2016-10-17T01:56:53Z")

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I noticed recetly, when trying to start a “in the forest” game, that the axe I can craft can’t cut down trees, since they need lvl2 tree cutting tool, and the rustic axe is only lvl1. What can I do to cut trees wihtout …

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## [Why do I need to redefine mtype (or zom)?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/why-do-i-need-to-redefine-mtype-or-zom/12744)

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**Author:** [@pisskop](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/pisskop)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [October 17, 2016, 1:52am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/why-do-i-need-to-redefine-mtype-or-zom/12744 "2016-10-17T01:52:20Z")

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bit of a crosspost \[quote=“pisskop”\]Is this the proper thread to cry tears into? I have a chunk of c++ here. The former \[spoiler\] // Generate bodies / zombies rn = rng(15, 20); for (int i = 0; i \< rn; i+…

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## [NPC makes copy of her helmet and uses it as a weapon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/npc-makes-copy-of-her-helmet-and-uses-it-as-a-weapon/12743)

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**Author:** [@Maarberg](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Maarberg)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [October 16, 2016, 8:31pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/npc-makes-copy-of-her-helmet-and-uses-it-as-a-weapon/12743 "2016-10-16T20:31:40Z")

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0.C-18754-ga3232b8 SDL Windows XP on ASUS Eee minilaptop so Leonie has gotten buggy. she was the first npc I met and had her join me. she is a doctor and want to keep her. problem is, if i give her the makeshift glaiv…

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## [Add the possibility to conserve recipes only](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/add-the-possibility-to-conserve-recipes-only/12738)

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**Author:** [@man-teiv](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/man-teiv)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [October 16, 2016, 3:34pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/add-the-possibility-to-conserve-recipes-only/12738 "2016-10-16T15:34:39Z")

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I find it very annoying to have to bring around enormous tomes with thousands of pages for a couple recipes that I’m interested in. I understand the fact that it’s not possible to read the recipe to learn it (learn by do…

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## [Furniture spawns inside walls. ( Ex. 5721 )](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/furniture-spawns-inside-walls-ex-5721/12740)

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**Author:** [@KiBoy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KiBoy)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [October 16, 2016, 12:54pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/furniture-spawns-inside-walls-ex-5721/12740 "2016-10-16T12:54:45Z")

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I sometimes find houses ( I only noticed it in normal houses so far ) that have some furniture ‘embedded’ inside walls. If it’s something draggable then you can casually remove it from the wall. This was happening for s…

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## [Can't Store Punch Dagger in Survivor Belt](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cant-store-punch-dagger-in-survivor-belt/12737)

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**Author:** [@Pandromidal](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Pandromidal)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [October 16, 2016, 11:30am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cant-store-punch-dagger-in-survivor-belt/12737 "2016-10-16T11:30:59Z")

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Linux (64bit) Latest from Git (make -j4 RELEASE=1 TILES=1 SOUND=0 LUA=1) Survivor Belt should be able to store a knife in it, but it’s not recognizing a punch dagger correctly.

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## [Plutonium Cell Sources?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/plutonium-cell-sources/12303)

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**Author:** [@Pandromidal](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Pandromidal)\
**Replies:** 30\
**Last updated:** [October 16, 2016, 9:56am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/plutonium-cell-sources/12303 "2016-10-16T09:56:58Z")

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What are some good sources for Plutonium Cells? Back around the time 0.C came out I had a character who found a lab room with a mi-go behind glass and a couple zombie scientists who created an unending supply of manhacks…

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## [Swapping Places in Vehicle kills npc](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/swapping-places-in-vehicle-kills-npc/12720)

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**Author:** [@Maarberg](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Maarberg)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [October 16, 2016, 3:57am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/swapping-places-in-vehicle-kills-npc/12720 "2016-10-16T03:57:30Z")

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0.C-18754-ga3232b8 SDL Windows XP on ASUS Eee minilaptop So I went to go get in my first working car and one of the npc’s jumped in the drivers seat. I was like "ok. i’ll just swap seats with her. I was sitting in the…

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## [NPC mapgen - what to add?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/npc-mapgen-what-to-add/12731)

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**Author:** [@Coolthulhu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Coolthulhu)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [October 16, 2016, 3:56am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/npc-mapgen-what-to-add/12731 "2016-10-16T03:56:03Z")

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What does it need to be usable? How should an entry look? I mean the interface. Not “I’d like more bandits” or “more quests”, but “To add more interesting NPCs, I need the ability to specify x”.

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## [NPC's head explodes when moving from inside mall loading dock to outside](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/npcs-head-explodes-when-moving-from-inside-mall-loading-dock-to-outside/12739)

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**Author:** [@Maarberg](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Maarberg)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [October 16, 2016, 3:55am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/npcs-head-explodes-when-moving-from-inside-mall-loading-dock-to-outside/12739 "2016-10-16T03:55:50Z")

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0.C-18754-ga3232b8 SDL Windows XP on ASUS Eee minilaptop So we got in a huge fight with some slimes. I was with 4 npc’s on my team. we all had alot of damage to our limbs. we all had at least one arm or leg at 0 hp. …

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## [How do I get an experimental build to play despite errors?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-do-i-get-an-experimental-build-to-play-despite-errors/12716)

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**Author:** [@Moon\_Dew](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Moon_Dew)\
**Replies:** 13\
**Last updated:** [October 15, 2016, 5:14pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-do-i-get-an-experimental-build-to-play-despite-errors/12716 "2016-10-15T17:14:44Z")

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In the stable build, even when I get error reports I can still start a new world with a new character. With the experimental builds, if I get so much as one error when loading a newly created world, the whole thing goes…

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## [Build is broken again on git](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/build-is-broken-again-on-git/12732)

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**Author:** [@Pandromidal](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Pandromidal)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [October 15, 2016, 11:30am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/build-is-broken-again-on-git/12732 "2016-10-15T11:30:02Z")

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Latest on git isn’t building for me on linux with tiles

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## [Vehicle build/repair times thru the roof / colors changed](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vehicle-build-repair-times-thru-the-roof-colors-changed/12585)

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**Author:** [@Voqar](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Voqar)\
**Replies:** 14\
**Last updated:** [October 15, 2016, 9:20am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vehicle-build-repair-times-thru-the-roof-colors-changed/12585 "2016-10-15T09:20:37Z")

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I sure hope these are bugs because they wreck the fun of the game. I’ve shelved the game for now because I am not spending my game time watching the hours tick by as I repair. This game is not supposed to be a clock wa…

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## [Night Raids are Shit?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/night-raids-are-shit/12683)

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**Author:** [@Gnorse](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Gnorse)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [October 15, 2016, 4:26am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/night-raids-are-shit/12683 "2016-10-15T04:26:15Z")

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so it appears in the latest exps night raids became more useless and dangerous than day raids i had quick , nightvision , light step AND weak scent and zombies just fucking home in on me like some kind of heat seeking m…

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## [(0.C-5712 Linux Console/Tiles) Unarmed skill will not train](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-c-5712-linux-console-tiles-unarmed-skill-will-not-train/12730)

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**Author:** [@ShinQuickMan](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ShinQuickMan)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [October 14, 2016, 11:57pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-c-5712-linux-console-tiles-unarmed-skill-will-not-train/12730 "2016-10-14T23:57:43Z")

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See title. Tried with multiple characters, different starting scenarios. and several different martial arts and starting unarmed skill (or lack thereof). Disabling skill gain in melee, bashing, cutting, piercing, and do…

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## [Acid zombies](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/acid-zombies/12702)

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**Author:** [@mugling](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/mugling)\
**Replies:** 28\
**Last updated:** [October 14, 2016, 9:09pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/acid-zombies/12702 "2016-10-14T21:09:13Z")

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What are player opinions about acidic zombies? Poll is 7 days with results shown at the conclusion. If anyone has any particular suggestions of changes/extensions that can be made please post them here but try and avoid …

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## [Creating New Game -- Stuck at World Creation. (0.C-5712)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/creating-new-game-stuck-at-world-creation-0-c-5712/12726)

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**Author:** [@AncientMageGaming](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/AncientMageGaming)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [October 14, 2016, 7:53pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/creating-new-game-stuck-at-world-creation-0-c-5712/12726 "2016-10-14T19:53:59Z")

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Forgive me, as I’m a new player and poster, and this might be handled in another post. Sorry, if it is. I’m attempting to start a new game and world on the experimental 0.C 5712, but I am unable to finish the creation.…

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## [Loot variety improvements and tweaks](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/loot-variety-improvements-and-tweaks/12703)

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**Author:** [@BeerBeer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BeerBeer)\
**Replies:** 16\
**Last updated:** [October 14, 2016, 10:52am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/loot-variety-improvements-and-tweaks/12703 "2016-10-14T10:52:57Z")

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To quote myself: Incidentally, none of the firearms found ever have any accessories, nor are they ever pre-accurized. I realized that when we find items and loot, they, for example, always come completely empty of char…

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## [Can i climb to roof?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-i-climb-to-roof/12714)

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**Author:** [@monocata](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/monocata)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [October 14, 2016, 9:22am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-i-climb-to-roof/12714 "2016-10-14T09:22:41Z")

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just want to climb up and stab those zeds with the spear or hellberd or shot them rifle. …dose any plan the developer add some power resource? i know the power-station not able to supply, but maybe i can fix it and j…

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## [Siphon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/siphon/12723)

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**Author:** [@Ember](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ember)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [October 14, 2016, 5:49am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/siphon/12723 "2016-10-14T05:49:21Z")

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theres one little thing in the vehicle examine that irritates me and its that i have to open the window after every siphon, can it please be changed so that it does the same thing as the fill command and go back to the w…

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## [The change to bookstore tiles needs to be reverted](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-change-to-bookstore-tiles-needs-to-be-reverted/12722)

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**Author:** [@SpadeDraco](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/SpadeDraco)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [October 14, 2016, 2:11am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-change-to-bookstore-tiles-needs-to-be-reverted/12722 "2016-10-14T02:11:35Z")

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They are now literally identical to furniture stores on the overmap. I assume this was an oversight.

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