# Game Talk

**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/c/game-talk/27.md?page=209

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## [Cant play game after update](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cant-play-game-after-update/14891)

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**Author:** [@NextDozen](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/NextDozen)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [February 2, 2018, 11:03am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cant-play-game-after-update/14891 "2018-02-02T11:03:27Z")

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\[image\] after updating game cata++ giving bionic items error and dont know this… I dont know if mods updated with game. I am using launcher

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## [Bullets can't pass through the metal bars (chain link fence, etc)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bullets-cant-pass-through-the-metal-bars-chain-link-fence-etc/14830)

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**Author:** [@syler1983](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/syler1983)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [February 2, 2018, 8:38am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bullets-cant-pass-through-the-metal-bars-chain-link-fence-etc/14830 "2018-02-02T08:38:13Z")

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Exactly what the title says. For example now you can clear the military outpost by waiting until the turrets waste all their ammo trying to shoot you through the impassable chain link fence.

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## [Wraitheon robo-soldiers drop bug](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/wraitheon-robo-soldiers-drop-bug/14901)

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**Author:** [@vivat](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/vivat)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [February 2, 2018, 7:49am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/wraitheon-robo-soldiers-drop-bug/14901 "2018-02-02T07:49:52Z")

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rifles dropped from Wraitheon soldiers have no magasine at all. w11b10 (red-colored @) armed with fn-scar-H. i see in gamelog what they shoot at me with their scar-h, and i see many casings of .308 caliber = fn-scar-h. …

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## [Drawing bug - "other enemy shoots at OUR enemy"](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/drawing-bug-other-enemy-shoots-at-our-enemy/14881)

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**Author:** [@vivat](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/vivat)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [January 30, 2018, 6:13pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/drawing-bug-other-enemy-shoots-at-our-enemy/14881 "2018-01-30T18:13:02Z")

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Hi! 0.c.25867-g4bb1d59 i see the bug? the glitch? dunno. video shooting drawing bug red coloured enemy pop up from the corner - we begin to stabilise ourself for quality shoot but enemy shoots first. and it seems lik…

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## [Last stable from 2015?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/last-stable-from-2015/14722)

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**Author:** [@Frombie](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Frombie)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [February 2, 2018, 2:57am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/last-stable-from-2015/14722 "2018-02-02T02:57:21Z")

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Hi all, I’m back after many years without DDA (unbelievable, isn’t ist?) and i tried to find a stable version of the game like the one I played once before. I found many experimentals, but only a stable version from ma…

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## [Lab mapgen jsonization - problem of adjacency](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/lab-mapgen-jsonization-problem-of-adjacency/14353)

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**Author:** [@Coolthulhu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Coolthulhu)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [February 1, 2018, 9:48pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/lab-mapgen-jsonization-problem-of-adjacency/14353 "2018-02-01T21:48:17Z")

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The primary reason for https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/21900 was that I wanted to make json labs possible. That PR isn’t enough, as it does not account for lab piece connections: two lab pieces need to…

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## [Auto-move/walk button](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/auto-move-walk-button/14894)

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**Author:** [@redxlaser15](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/redxlaser15)\
**Replies:** 18\
**Last updated:** [February 1, 2018, 7:53pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/auto-move-walk-button/14894 "2018-02-01T19:53:29Z")

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–I hate when I’ve been using a base for a long time and eventually there is literally hundreds of corpses littering the nearby area. I’d love an option that made it so my character would just walk around moving each dead…

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## [Death camera stuck in loop](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/death-camera-stuck-in-loop/14899)

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**Author:** [@mothseed](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/mothseed)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [February 1, 2018, 7:21pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/death-camera-stuck-in-loop/14899 "2018-02-01T19:21:41Z")

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Hello! I may be missing something obvious, but when I opt to view my death camera, it just… keeps going. I haven’t found any keystroke that will quit to the menu. This forces me to Alt-F4, after which I’m reverted to my…

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## [Factorio + Cataclysm (late gamish) = awesome](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/factorio-cataclysm-late-gamish-awesome/14871)

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**Author:** [@redxlaser15](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/redxlaser15)\
**Replies:** 17\
**Last updated:** [February 1, 2018, 10:43am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/factorio-cataclysm-late-gamish-awesome/14871 "2018-02-01T10:43:42Z")

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I’m not a super big fan of Factorio, but if you played it you might know what I’m thinking. I don’t care about lots of detailed stuff, but the ability to effectively build your own factory with electricity powering your …

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## [How to intentionally induce bleeding? (Or to get Blood Soaked Rags?) (Arcana Mod)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-intentionally-induce-bleeding-or-to-get-blood-soaked-rags-arcana-mod/14884)

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**Author:** [@psyxypher](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/psyxypher)\
**Replies:** 22\
**Last updated:** [January 31, 2018, 5:20pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-intentionally-induce-bleeding-or-to-get-blood-soaked-rags-arcana-mod/14884 "2018-01-31T17:20:50Z")

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I need to get myself to bleeding in a safe and controlled way. I’ve tried stepping onto bear traps, but my DEX and Trapping Skill are way too high to set them off and I highly doubt I’d survive stepping on a Landmine. Mo…

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## [Which magasine i need? (4.6 caliber conversion kit)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/which-magasine-i-need-4-6-caliber-conversion-kit/14890)

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**Author:** [@vivat](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/vivat)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [January 31, 2018, 1:28pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/which-magasine-i-need-4-6-caliber-conversion-kit/14890 "2018-01-31T13:28:35Z")

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Hi! before i not experimented this way but now i said myself “pourque paix?” after finding this item (err i mean 4.6 caliber conversion kit) in the gunshop. after that i take first found pistol - it is Glock17 from the…

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## [New Launcher for DDA?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/new-launcher-for-dda/14883)

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**Author:** [@NextDozen](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/NextDozen)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [January 31, 2018, 1:00pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/new-launcher-for-dda/14883 "2018-01-31T13:00:43Z")

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A new launcher is possible ? Old launcher not good enough Need Mod database for launcher and itself all modders should upload to there Just a self update able launcher can do all of this. Database is old or changed ? …

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## [Changing windowed mode makes it impossible to set back to "no" setting](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/changing-windowed-mode-makes-it-impossible-to-set-back-to-no-setting/14887)

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**Author:** [@Litppunk](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Litppunk)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [January 31, 2018, 1:15am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/changing-windowed-mode-makes-it-impossible-to-set-back-to-no-setting/14887 "2018-01-31T01:15:05Z")

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Says it all in the subject. I’m running it via the launcher inside wineskin so its possible its something there. Changing windowed mode prevents ever being able to return to “no” setting. You can switch between full-scr…

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## [This is ridiculous!](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/this-is-ridiculous/14875)

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**Author:** [@Jimbo\_Gee81](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Jimbo_Gee81)\
**Replies:** 42\
**Last updated:** [January 31, 2018, 1:06am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/this-is-ridiculous/14875 "2018-01-31T01:06:44Z")

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Ok this is going to be a long one so buckle in. I’ve been playing the game for about two weeks straight now and Ive noticed something. In the developers quest for ultra realism and balance they overlooked one minor detai…

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## [Shouldn't the gasmask give at least minor glare protection?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/shouldnt-the-gasmask-give-at-least-minor-glare-protection/14869)

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**Author:** [@redxlaser15](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/redxlaser15)\
**Replies:** 22\
**Last updated:** [January 30, 2018, 11:53pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/shouldnt-the-gasmask-give-at-least-minor-glare-protection/14869 "2018-01-30T23:53:51Z")

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Well, with how a gasmask is I just can’t help but having some glare protection would make sense. Yes it is a \_gas\_mask, but it still seems fitting to me. I don’t care too much about this, but I just thought I should brin…

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## [When will my bones FINALLY heal?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/when-will-my-bones-finally-heal/14873)

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**Author:** [@redxlaser15](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/redxlaser15)\
**Replies:** 20\
**Last updated:** [January 30, 2018, 8:22pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/when-will-my-bones-finally-heal/14873 "2018-01-30T20:22:41Z")

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\-I understand the game says your bones(s) will heal slowly, and IRL it can take a really long time, but I made a splint and put it on almost immediately and it’s been over three in-game days and I have yet to be better. :…

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## [How do you cut down those tree trunks for planks and stuff?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-do-you-cut-down-those-tree-trunks-for-planks-and-stuff/14872)

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**Author:** [@redxlaser15](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/redxlaser15)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [January 29, 2018, 4:21pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-do-you-cut-down-those-tree-trunks-for-planks-and-stuff/14872 "2018-01-29T16:21:05Z")

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I have a wood axe and a toolbox, what do I do about it exactly? All I wanna do is get more planks! :sob:

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## [What skills depend on bionic removing?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-skills-depend-on-bionic-removing/14868)

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**Author:** [@redxlaser15](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/redxlaser15)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [January 28, 2018, 11:44pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-skills-depend-on-bionic-removing/14868 "2018-01-28T23:44:20Z")

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I imagine first aid matters, since you are cutting directly into your flesh after all, maybe computers too? In any case, I’d prefer to know which things to focus on training since I want to get rid of my Leaky Bionic ASA…

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## [Moving onto this window frame is slow](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/moving-onto-this-window-frame-is-slow/14857)

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**Author:** [@Dlight\_full](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Dlight_full)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [January 28, 2018, 5:13pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/moving-onto-this-window-frame-is-slow/14857 "2018-01-28T17:13:44Z")

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When having Parkour Expert, moving through an open window is at regular speed, but moving through a window frame is slow, which is absurd. They should both be either slow or not slow.

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## [Is this "Secret Cabin" supposed to be like this?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-this-secret-cabin-supposed-to-be-like-this/14867)

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**Author:** [@psyxypher](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/psyxypher)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [January 28, 2018, 6:22am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-this-secret-cabin-supposed-to-be-like-this/14867 "2018-01-28T06:22:27Z")

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\[image\] Doing the Cult Questline, and clearly this cabin is unfinished. I’m either just unable to find the stairway, or I’m royally screwed. EDIT: I did do some searching around the house. Tried prying the windows and …

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## [When does radiation get 'bad'](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/when-does-radiation-get-bad/14862)

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**Author:** [@redxlaser15](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/redxlaser15)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [January 28, 2018, 5:12am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/when-does-radiation-get-bad/14862 "2018-01-28T05:12:05Z")

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Hmm, so an enemy irradiated me, and I wanna know how many points of radiated is when it starts to have really nasty effects. I’m currently at \[9\] EDIT: Great, now I’m at radiation \[15\] I have some seemingly mild effects…

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## [Can we have it so you aren't able to scratch yourself to death?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-we-have-it-so-you-arent-able-to-scratch-yourself-to-death/14864)

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**Author:** [@redxlaser15](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/redxlaser15)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [January 28, 2018, 12:55am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-we-have-it-so-you-arent-able-to-scratch-yourself-to-death/14864 "2018-01-28T00:55:07Z")

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It’s rather annoying that my guy just died from scratching himself to death in the torso in his sleep…

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## [Fireplace: as firewood long burns](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/fireplace-as-firewood-long-burns/14852)

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**Author:** [@vivat](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/vivat)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [January 27, 2018, 3:45pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/fireplace-as-firewood-long-burns/14852 "2018-01-27T15:45:23Z")

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Hi! Fireplace… the longer you use him - the more often it is necessary to fill him. if right after construction of a fireplace to load a log into it - the log will long burn. now the log burns down in 5 hours. I live…

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## [Kinetic Force Doing Damage Through Armor](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/kinetic-force-doing-damage-through-armor/9537)

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**Author:** [@Wally-kun](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Wally-kun)\
**Replies:** 32\
**Last updated:** [January 27, 2018, 6:49am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/kinetic-force-doing-damage-through-armor/9537 "2018-01-27T06:49:22Z")

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The current damage modeling in the game allows for you to hold onto a grenade and let it explode in your hand, or safely step on a landmine, provided you have enough armor. You can get punched with enough force to get bl…

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## [What is this 'debug mode' that you speak of?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-is-this-debug-mode-that-you-speak-of/14859)

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**Author:** [@redxlaser15](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/redxlaser15)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [January 26, 2018, 10:43pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-is-this-debug-mode-that-you-speak-of/14859 "2018-01-26T22:43:36Z")

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Well, mostly what I wonder is how to get to it, although even then I have no clue how it all works.

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## [Martial arts books](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/martial-arts-books/14855)

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**Author:** [@Dlight\_full](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Dlight_full)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [January 26, 2018, 10:21pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/martial-arts-books/14855 "2018-01-26T22:21:34Z")

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What is the situation with MA books nowadays? What books can be found ingame and where? I’m mostly interested in The Dragon Style and Zui Quan MA. Is it even possible to find the books for those arts?

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## [You fall down a level!](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/you-fall-down-a-level/14856)

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**Author:** [@Dlight\_full](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Dlight_full)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [January 26, 2018, 1:55pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/you-fall-down-a-level/14856 "2018-01-26T13:55:39Z")

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I found some up stairs in a bookstore and when i tried to go up one level, i fell down. This sounds really stupid, my char should see that the second level is not there and not go up the stairs at all.

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## [Wood chopping and wood sawing questions](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/wood-chopping-and-wood-sawing-questions/14849)

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**Author:** [@NuG](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/NuG)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [January 25, 2018, 4:32pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/wood-chopping-and-wood-sawing-questions/14849 "2018-01-25T16:32:49Z")

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Does using wood chopping of 2 give you less two by fours or logs than if you actually use wood sawing? Arew wood chopping 1 and wood sawing 1 used for anything? Is splintered wood a byproduct of making two by fours?

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## [Building a boat in wilderness (no cities)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/building-a-boat-in-wilderness-no-cities/14846)

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**Author:** [@Viik](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Viik)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [January 25, 2018, 7:45am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/building-a-boat-in-wilderness-no-cities/14846 "2018-01-25T07:45:56Z")

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To this point I thought that I could build a simple boat with oars. Unfortunately it’s a bit useless without controls. Maybe I can find some odd vehicle somewhere but that is a challenge on its own. Something like a bic…

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## [Coal made from wood](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/coal-made-from-wood/14834)

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**Author:** [@syler1983](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/syler1983)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [January 25, 2018, 2:39am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/coal-made-from-wood/14834 "2018-01-25T02:39:23Z")

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Cutting up a coal will produce a splintered wood. I think this happens cause coal material is ‘wood’ (probably to make it burnable).

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