# Game Talk

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## [Thermoelectric Exchange CBM](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/thermoelectric-exchange-cbm/15148)

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**Author:** [@Oxidas](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Oxidas)\
**Replies:** 21\
**Last updated:** [March 21, 2018, 2:40am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/thermoelectric-exchange-cbm/15148 "2018-03-21T02:40:38Z")

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Update It turns out this is a lot simpler than I thought, most of the relevant warmth/wet/wind values this bio needs seem to be consolidated in player.cpp, I was just looking in the wrong place this whole time. Edited …

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## [Coffee (and meth) vs sleep](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/coffee-and-meth-vs-sleep/15152)

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**Author:** [@Coolthulhu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Coolthulhu)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [March 21, 2018, 1:23am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/coffee-and-meth-vs-sleep/15152 "2018-03-21T01:23:53Z")

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Coffee and meth currently decrease fatigue, just like that. If you have a big enough stash, you can stay awake indefinitely. Atomic coffee is especially effective for this. My idea of fix: Effective fatigue is scaled …

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## [Butchering a moose don't yield any fat](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/butchering-a-moose-dont-yield-any-fat/15144)

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**Author:** [@hannia](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/hannia)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [March 20, 2018, 7:54am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/butchering-a-moose-dont-yield-any-fat/15144 "2018-03-20T07:54:03Z")

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Right now I am currently using the 7216 build and like the title says, whenever I butchered a moose I never get any fat (I got a lot of meat though) The only noticeable changelog that I remembered is something about ha…

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## [Spanish version word too long](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/spanish-version-word-too-long/15106)

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**Author:** [@Belcanzor](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Belcanzor)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [March 20, 2018, 3:34am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/spanish-version-word-too-long/15106 "2018-03-20T03:34:10Z")

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Winter = Invierno word cover time. Cant see the time, only english version work. Ex: 21:00hs its 0:00hs Hope this is clear enough :stuck\_out\_tongue:

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## [What enemy units can be blacklisted without side effects?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-enemy-units-can-be-blacklisted-without-side-effects/15145)

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**Author:** [@Hirmuolio](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Hirmuolio)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [March 19, 2018, 7:53pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-enemy-units-can-be-blacklisted-without-side-effects/15145 "2018-03-19T19:53:21Z")

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The mundane zombies mod removes all the special zombies from the game. But many missions have a special zombie in them that you need to kill and if that zombie is blacklisted the target zombie simply won’t spawn and the …

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## [Building a bridge?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/building-a-bridge/7663)

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**Author:** [@ID404-NotFound](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ID404-NotFound)\
**Replies:** 34\
**Last updated:** [March 18, 2018, 1:46pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/building-a-bridge/7663 "2018-03-18T13:46:42Z")

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I couldn’t find any info with searching, but is there a way to build a bridge? I couldn’t find a way either to fill in shallow water (basically to make a road through swamp)

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## [Suggestion: Move the old future era lore into Icecoon's Arsenal](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/suggestion-move-the-old-future-era-lore-into-icecoons-arsenal/15129)

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**Author:** [@BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BorkBorkGoesTheCode)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [March 18, 2018, 1:59am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/suggestion-move-the-old-future-era-lore-into-icecoons-arsenal/15129 "2018-03-18T01:59:22Z")

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Instead of removing all the lore referencing the old early DDA/Whale’s Cataclysm setting, why not convert Icecoon’s Arsenal into an era mod?

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## [There a few unbalance on aiming stystem](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/there-a-few-unbalance-on-aiming-stystem/14912)

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**Author:** [@vipches](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/vipches)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [March 18, 2018, 1:28am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/there-a-few-unbalance-on-aiming-stystem/14912 "2018-03-18T01:28:24Z")

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For now, as we know, the aiming stystem has a little change in the new version, when you try to targeting the enemy you always started with a high recoil(red) at the beginning, which mean that you have to take some time…

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## [Why can't you burst-fire with any automatic?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/why-cant-you-burst-fire-with-any-automatic/15121)

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**Author:** [@hobophobe](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/hobophobe)\
**Replies:** 15\
**Last updated:** [March 17, 2018, 6:28pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/why-cant-you-burst-fire-with-any-automatic/15121 "2018-03-17T18:28:21Z")

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For many assault rifles, LMGs and SMGs there are only options for single shot semi-auto or a full-auto which fires off at least 10 rounds and is a huge waste of ammo. Shoudn’t you be able to burst fire any automatic wea…

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## [Weak/Inaccurate Guns in Experimental](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/weak-inaccurate-guns-in-experimental/15101)

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**Author:** [@Straume21](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Straume21)\
**Replies:** 14\
**Last updated:** [March 17, 2018, 9:59pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/weak-inaccurate-guns-in-experimental/15101 "2018-03-17T21:59:19Z")

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Is it just me, or are guns a lot weaker and more inaccurate in the new experimental? I’ve been playing a custom version of an old experimental that I’ve modded quite a bit myself, and I recently got around to trying the …

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## [Getting lots of Cybernetic Power as fast as possible?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/getting-lots-of-cybernetic-power-as-fast-as-possible/15093)

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**Author:** [@psyxypher](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/psyxypher)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [March 17, 2018, 6:00pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/getting-lots-of-cybernetic-power-as-fast-as-possible/15093 "2018-03-17T18:00:37Z")

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I’m doing the challenge where I need to get 500,000 Cybernetic Power (and all CBMs, but getting 500,000 is the more pressing matter). What’s the fastest way to get Power Storage CBMs? I know that I need to craft those i…

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## [Impossible to Navigate Main Menu (Work-around Fix)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/impossible-to-navigate-main-menu-work-around-fix/15128)

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**Author:** [@causticsoda](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/causticsoda)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [March 17, 2018, 12:23am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/impossible-to-navigate-main-menu-work-around-fix/15128 "2018-03-17T00:23:03Z")

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On Experimental Build 7205, it’s literally impossible to navigate in the main menu. Press right arrow and it will not actually move the blue cursor (?) on the screen until I press another arrow. When trying to change opt…

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## [Are Islands Possible?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/are-islands-possible/15125)

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**Author:** [@Straume21](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Straume21)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [March 16, 2018, 1:30pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/are-islands-possible/15125 "2018-03-16T13:30:59Z")

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Is it possible to make lakes/rivers big enough that there could be islands in the middle of them? And corresponding docks/ferries or whatever on the mainland that have boats you could drive there? I guess you would have…

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## [Expanding tile outline system (ie blue for multiple items)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/expanding-tile-outline-system-ie-blue-for-multiple-items/15122)

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**Author:** [@hobophobe](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/hobophobe)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [March 15, 2018, 9:57pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/expanding-tile-outline-system-ie-blue-for-multiple-items/15122 "2018-03-15T21:57:58Z")

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So what I’m thinking here is the blue tile outline which designates multiple items on one tile is very useful and could be expanded to denote a wide variety of other useful information. For example, you can’t currently t…

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## ['Nether' Mutations](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/nether-mutations/15124)

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**Author:** [@redxlaser15](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/redxlaser15)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [March 15, 2018, 7:15pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/nether-mutations/15124 "2018-03-15T19:15:30Z")

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We saw it, the End. Before it was thought even possible. Masters found us, they show us the future of mankind. They show our errors, and how weak we are. Others do not believe in us, they call us fools and throw us out. …

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## [Can you make NPCs only grab certain items?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-you-make-npcs-only-grab-certain-items/14295)

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**Author:** [@redxlaser15](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/redxlaser15)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [March 15, 2018, 7:08pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-you-make-npcs-only-grab-certain-items/14295 "2018-03-15T19:08:06Z")

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I haven’t fully experimented with this yet, because if it is wrong it will be a massive pain, but I hate that my friend can’t just pick up his own crossbow bolts; I need to give each one back to him manually. I did cross…

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## [Can enemies still see you through your security cameras?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-enemies-still-see-you-through-your-security-cameras/15120)

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**Author:** [@NuG](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/NuG)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [March 15, 2018, 6:59pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-enemies-still-see-you-through-your-security-cameras/15120 "2018-03-15T18:59:00Z")

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I was curious if this is still happening, does anyone know?

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## [Chesthole 7206 update issue](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/chesthole-7206-update-issue/15119)

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**Author:** [@TheMurderUnicorn](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheMurderUnicorn)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [March 15, 2018, 4:03pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/chesthole-7206-update-issue/15119 "2018-03-15T16:03:49Z")

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Okay, so, I updated to 7206 and loaded into my world. I’m using Chesthole32 tiles. First, my mobile base had been parked 1 tile North of the Evac Shelter. Upon loading in, it was instead parked AGAINST the shelter. I…

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## [Wild animals aren't aggressive like this](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/wild-animals-arent-aggressive-like-this/15100)

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**Author:** [@redxlaser15](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/redxlaser15)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [March 15, 2018, 6:47am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/wild-animals-arent-aggressive-like-this/15100 "2018-03-15T06:47:49Z")

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–IRL, bears won’t attack you unless you get close to either them or their cub(s). They eat much more than simply meat, such as berries and honey. You really don’t need to worry much about them at all if you ever see one,…

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## [Refugee Center spontaneous combustion](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/refugee-center-spontaneous-combustion/15096)

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**Author:** [@Tudor\_Suciu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Tudor_Suciu)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [March 15, 2018, 2:19am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/refugee-center-spontaneous-combustion/15096 "2018-03-15T02:19:15Z")

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So I spent a large portion of my last character’s life trying to find a refugee center, because I’m really interested in the storyline and never got very far into it. I clear the back bay (not too hard a task, given how …

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## [Color templates](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/color-templates/15117)

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**Author:** [@leland](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/leland)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [March 15, 2018, 1:42am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/color-templates/15117 "2018-03-15T01:42:54Z")

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https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/11878 added the ability to create alternate color layouts, but I’ve never seen anyone share theirs! Does anyone have a favorite?

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## [Funnels not collecting](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/funnels-not-collecting/2981)

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**Author:** [@Necrucifer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Necrucifer)\
**Replies:** 27\
**Last updated:** [March 14, 2018, 6:18pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/funnels-not-collecting/2981 "2018-03-14T18:18:41Z")

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I know you have to drop a container like a jug or plastic bottle etc on them after setting it up to collect water when it rains but for some reason it thunder stormed when I was reading a book then while sleeping and the…

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## [Suggestion: Dog improvements](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/suggestion-dog-improvements/15110)

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**Author:** [@Pyrite](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Pyrite)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [March 14, 2018, 4:58pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/suggestion-dog-improvements/15110 "2018-03-14T16:58:48Z")

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Basically, this is what I’d like to see for dogs: Adapt the NPC dialogue code to treat pet dogs as NPCs. Through this dialogue menu, you could: -Give the dog a harness. We should be able to armor our doggos to give th…

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## [Bio\_mod: infected scenario starting with antibiotics (?)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bio-mod-infected-scenario-starting-with-antibiotics/15109)

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**Author:** [@sylbar](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/sylbar)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [March 13, 2018, 4:40pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bio-mod-infected-scenario-starting-with-antibiotics/15109 "2018-03-13T16:40:16Z")

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I wonder if it is wanted to start “infected” scenario with a straight up cure, so bio-surgeon could get blacklisted, by means of adding $ cat data/mods/bio\_mod/scenarios.json \[ { “type”: “scenario”, “ident”: “infect…

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## [Snow ideas (and more)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/snow-ideas-and-more/15083)

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**Author:** [@Brony\_RainBoom](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Brony_RainBoom)\
**Replies:** 13\
**Last updated:** [March 13, 2018, 9:42am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/snow-ideas-and-more/15083 "2018-03-13T09:42:15Z")

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As a player who somehow is better at wilderness survival then city (Idk how) I noticed that you can’t build stuff from snow… And I think I have some suggestions 1)melt snow and ice 2)build… The oval snow thing that esc…

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## [Bugged Strange Temple](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bugged-strange-temple/15098)

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**Author:** [@hobophobe](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/hobophobe)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [March 13, 2018, 3:23am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bugged-strange-temple/15098 "2018-03-13T03:23:51Z")

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This is on Build 7190 \[temple\]

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## [Temperature insulation](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/temperature-insulation/15086)

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**Author:** [@dissociativity](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/dissociativity)\
**Replies:** 18\
**Last updated:** [March 12, 2018, 11:58pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/temperature-insulation/15086 "2018-03-12T23:58:05Z")

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So clothes warm the player, this is fine, but some like turbans, maybe a craftable cape, ect, should also insulate the player from the heat? The current method of wearing as little as possible during summer irks me, a s…

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## [Old Inventory Interface in Experimental and Slow Zombies Mod](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/old-inventory-interface-in-experimental-and-slow-zombies-mod/15084)

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**Author:** [@Straume21](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Straume21)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [March 12, 2018, 10:39pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/old-inventory-interface-in-experimental-and-slow-zombies-mod/15084 "2018-03-12T22:39:18Z")

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I just downloaded the new experimental and it’s okay, but… I really miss the old inventory screen (how it takes over the whole screen when you press \[i\]). Is there any way to manually change the interface to the old way …

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## [Brains: A useful thing](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/brains-a-useful-thing/14745)

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**Author:** [@redxlaser15](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/redxlaser15)\
**Replies:** 19\
**Last updated:** [March 12, 2018, 2:47pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/brains-a-useful-thing/14745 "2018-03-12T14:47:12Z")

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This is just a random somewhat goofy idea I thought of one time. What if all those dead things had a prober use for their brain? IRL people will eat monkey brains, so that’s one example. (Unless offals count as that then…

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## [Mansion Spawn Bug (Build 7179)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/mansion-spawn-bug-build-7179/15073)

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**Author:** [@EnDSchultz](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/EnDSchultz)\
**Replies:** 14\
**Last updated:** [March 11, 2018, 10:02pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/mansion-spawn-bug-build-7179/15073 "2018-03-11T22:02:46Z")

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Hello, something’s up with the mapgen as it pertains to the new mansion layouts. Looks like the game is spawning tiles of the mansion as “house” on the map, resulting in a disjointed and incomplete mansion. The up/down s…

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