# Game Talk

**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/c/game-talk/27.md?page=179

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## [New start idea"test subject"](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/new-start-idea-test-subject/16989)

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**Author:** [@Umbra.Animo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Umbra.Animo)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [October 14, 2018, 5:30am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/new-start-idea-test-subject/16989 "2018-10-14T05:30:24Z")

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one thing i would love to try is starting out fully mutated. as in past the mutation threshold of a type. it would be pretty similar to the experiment start but mostly spawn with a subject jumpsuit a survival knife a bag…

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## [UP and LEFT keys sporadically not working](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/up-and-left-keys-sporadically-not-working/16982)

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**Author:** [@w00ks](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/w00ks)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [October 13, 2018, 5:28pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/up-and-left-keys-sporadically-not-working/16982 "2018-10-13T17:28:34Z")

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Hello, I’m having some trouble getting my UP and LEFT keys to reliably work in the game. Sometimes they just have no feedback when I press them, and sometimes they work as expected. It almost seems like sometimes they ge…

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## [Trait Suggestion: Anhedonia](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/trait-suggestion-anhedonia/16955)

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**Author:** [@GrandpuhTy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/GrandpuhTy)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [October 13, 2018, 5:04pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/trait-suggestion-anhedonia/16955 "2018-10-13T17:04:39Z")

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Anhedonia - not finding pleasure in things you normally take pleasure in - is a symptom of depression. Expanded Blurb"When depressed, you will also be reluctant to start things, and won’t find things appealing. Th…

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## [Its the small things that matter](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/its-the-small-things-that-matter/16988)

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**Author:** [@Umbra.Animo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Umbra.Animo)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [October 13, 2018, 6:05am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/its-the-small-things-that-matter/16988 "2018-10-13T06:05:11Z")

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so mostly this is a idea that small thing can affect the player. like a player will prefer eating a meal at a table and even more with a plate/bowl and utensils. other thing would add frying pan (and giving the pot a act…

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## [Practice makes perfect](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/practice-makes-perfect/3509)

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**Author:** [@kevin.granade](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kevin.granade)\
**Replies:** 54\
**Last updated:** [October 13, 2018, 6:02am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/practice-makes-perfect/3509 "2018-10-13T06:02:12Z")

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I’ve been pondering how skill advancement works recently, and I’m starting to get dissatisfied with tallying up performing actions to measure practice of skills, particularly combat skills. This isn’t how it works in re…

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## [Time skip when doing things](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/time-skip-when-doing-things/16986)

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**Author:** [@Umbra.Animo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Umbra.Animo)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [October 13, 2018, 6:02am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/time-skip-when-doing-things/16986 "2018-10-13T06:02:15Z")

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i think the option to just have the game jump cut to the next interruption/ completion of a task would help out. example. i was custom building a vehicle. started on day 9 of spring. day 15 when i was just about to finis…

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## [Sound of dragged cart?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/sound-of-dragged-cart/16749)

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**Author:** [@jokaro](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/jokaro)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [October 13, 2018, 12:40am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/sound-of-dragged-cart/16749 "2018-10-13T00:40:08Z")

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Is it possible to know how much sound the cart I am dragging is making? If I look at the sound in the UI the cart doesn’t seem to make any extra sound. But I get the impression that more Z’s are pulled to me.

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## [The symbol used for open doors and windows](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-symbol-used-for-open-doors-and-windows/16930)

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**Author:** [@Mummelpuffin](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Mummelpuffin)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [October 12, 2018, 11:28am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-symbol-used-for-open-doors-and-windows/16930 "2018-10-12T11:28:18Z")

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Looking on the wiki here and here, it appears as if the symbol for open doors and windows used to be a slash \\ character, but in my game it’s instead represented by a single quote '. Also windows were blue in the wiki p…

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## [More older experimental builds -- Patreon?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/more-older-experimental-builds-patreon/16959)

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**Author:** [@Narc](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Narc)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [October 12, 2018, 6:52am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/more-older-experimental-builds-patreon/16959 "2018-10-12T06:52:55Z")

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Hi, all, I’ve just set up a discussion on Reddit at https://old.reddit.com/r/cataclysmdda/comments/9n890x/more\_experimental\_build\_history\_patreon/ about possibly setting up a Patreon for more storage to allow reverting …

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## [Where can I see the temperature?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/where-can-i-see-the-temperature/16968)

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**Author:** [@Brian\_Cahoon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Brian_Cahoon)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [October 12, 2018, 1:37am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/where-can-i-see-the-temperature/16968 "2018-10-12T01:37:33Z")

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I’m using the newest android build. Where in the UI can I see the temp? I see on the right side of the screen where it says chilly. I see where it shows the weather and lighting and all that. But is there anyway to find …

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## [Any way to fix a broken save?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/any-way-to-fix-a-broken-save/16967)

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**Author:** [@thatotherguy123](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/thatotherguy123)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [October 12, 2018, 12:44am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/any-way-to-fix-a-broken-save/16967 "2018-10-12T00:44:08Z")

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Hi all, my computer crashed today as I was playing, and after I opened the game up again and tried to load the save several error messages came up on the loading screen along with the message “Cannot find loader for save…

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## [How the fuck did i live](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-the-fuck-did-i-live/16954)

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**Author:** [@Umbra.Animo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Umbra.Animo)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [October 11, 2018, 11:00pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-the-fuck-did-i-live/16954 "2018-10-11T23:00:03Z")

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so i playing a bionic gangster i had to burn my spawn house down and flee a bunch of zombies i trapped in the basement. thankfully the house was near a shelter (one of those military one that don’t have a locked door). i…

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## [Words of advice to new players?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/words-of-advice-to-new-players/16129)

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**Author:** [@ecchi\_squid](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ecchi_squid)\
**Replies:** 42\
**Last updated:** [October 11, 2018, 2:17pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/words-of-advice-to-new-players/16129 "2018-10-11T14:17:38Z")

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I’m sure these kinds of things have been gone over innumerable times, but hell, often times guides and advice don’t cover general gameplay or are typically scattered everywhere. What are the most important things you’ve …

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## [Crash when using soundpack](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crash-when-using-soundpack/16961)

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**Author:** [@Treah](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Treah)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [October 11, 2018, 2:16pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crash-when-using-soundpack/16961 "2018-10-11T14:16:22Z")

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I am trying to use the latest game compile along with the sound-pack from chest but I am getting a segfault when trying to load the game world. Either something is not coded right in the soundpack.json file or I am missi…

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## [Where To get Bionic nerf kits](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/where-to-get-bionic-nerf-kits/16871)

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**Author:** [@Catfoodbob](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Catfoodbob)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [October 4, 2018, 10:41pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/where-to-get-bionic-nerf-kits/16871 "2018-10-04T22:41:35Z")

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I am looking for anesthetic kits but i cannot seem to find them in town and or they are excessivly hard to find in labs as well. Is it possible to craft them with a book?

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## [Is it possible to break a wall with a Halligan bar?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-it-possible-to-break-a-wall-with-a-halligan-bar/16936)

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**Author:** [@MaxTKOA](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/MaxTKOA)\
**Replies:** 22\
**Last updated:** [October 11, 2018, 3:27am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-it-possible-to-break-a-wall-with-a-halligan-bar/16936 "2018-10-11T03:27:35Z")

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Uhhhh… yeah… I’m not exactly sure how I did that, but this being early game, my options are kind of limited… Is there a way out that I haven’t tried or does terrain damage accumulate in a way that I don’t currently kn…

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## [Storage space stores a lot more than it should](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/storage-space-stores-a-lot-more-than-it-should/16952)

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**Author:** [@Rose](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rose)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [October 11, 2018, 1:49am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/storage-space-stores-a-lot-more-than-it-should/16952 "2018-10-11T01:49:45Z")

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Just what the title says. Is this a bug or what? I’ve seen cargo spaces holding like 253.50 or 250.12 liters before, but this just dwarves those.

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## [Biggest town ever](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/biggest-town-ever/16882)

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**Author:** [@Catfoodbob](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Catfoodbob)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [October 11, 2018, 1:42am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/biggest-town-ever/16882 "2018-10-11T01:42:15Z")

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Yes With the founding of this fourway intersection in the middle of nowhere, we have Jonesboro.

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## [How often do you update your experimental?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-often-do-you-update-your-experimental/16830)

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**Author:** [@Obey](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Obey)\
**Replies:** 17\
**Last updated:** [October 10, 2018, 8:48pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-often-do-you-update-your-experimental/16830 "2018-10-10T20:48:49Z")

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I update once a month, when a major character dies. Should I update more often?

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## [Work shopping some new Scenarios](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/work-shopping-some-new-scenarios/16864)

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**Author:** [@Trivega](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Trivega)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [October 10, 2018, 2:49pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/work-shopping-some-new-scenarios/16864 "2018-10-10T14:49:30Z")

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Here’s a couple of new scenarios I want to suggest and work shop a bit. With Halloween around the corner, I feel there’s not enough horror inspired themed scenarios if that makes sense. \[The Strange Cabin\] " The nightma…

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## [Lab Escape Explorations](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/lab-escape-explorations/16878)

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**Author:** [@Unawares](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Unawares)\
**Replies:** 17\
**Last updated:** [October 10, 2018, 3:50am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/lab-escape-explorations/16878 "2018-10-10T03:50:05Z")

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It’s been a while since I last played, and so many changes! This is especially true in lab escape land, which has become a lot more interesting! Kudos on all the effort! 8) One bit of feedback, I just did an unwillin…

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## [Vehical ideas to add](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vehical-ideas-to-add/16945)

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**Author:** [@Umbra.Animo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Umbra.Animo)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [October 10, 2018, 2:33am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vehical-ideas-to-add/16945 "2018-10-10T02:33:08Z")

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some ideas for some more vehicle mods (modifications not game mods) grow beds. mobile farms needs power to grow (aka the greenhouse light) more furniture mostly some more decor items like bookcases dresser a dinner table…

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## [Code diving, documentation correction for criticals](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/code-diving-documentation-correction-for-criticals/16914)

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**Author:** [@Unawares](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Unawares)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [October 10, 2018, 1:17am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/code-diving-documentation-correction-for-criticals/16914 "2018-10-10T01:17:37Z")

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Doesn’t affect gameplay at all, but the example cases for calculating critical hits in the code documentation has an error. The dexterity / perception “roll” (one of three rolls that work together) for a character with …

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## [Field of Vision](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/field-of-vision/16943)

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**Author:** [@Foqus](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Foqus)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [October 9, 2018, 10:47pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/field-of-vision/16943 "2018-10-09T22:47:34Z")

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Would it be possible to create a mod to where the player and enemies have a directional field of vision? Maybe we can use shift+directional keys to change orientation. This would add a layer of strategy and make stealth …

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## [Cars on roofs/farms](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cars-on-roofs-farms/16908)

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**Author:** [@Umbra.Animo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Umbra.Animo)\
**Replies:** 13\
**Last updated:** [October 9, 2018, 9:58pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cars-on-roofs-farms/16908 "2018-10-09T21:58:06Z")

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ok so i just finished clearing out the second floor and roof of a office building that i converting to a base. i been wondering any way to form a farm on the roof (i have a lot of space) and iff i build a car mostly just…

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## [Vehicle repeat option](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vehicle-repeat-option/16938)

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**Author:** [@Umbra.Animo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Umbra.Animo)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [October 9, 2018, 9:32pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vehicle-repeat-option/16938 "2018-10-09T21:32:03Z")

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after installing a roof in to a car with the hammerspace mutation i saw that if you have a lot of options its a pain to install the same thing in different frames i think the repeat option would be nice even with out ham…

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## [Is umbrella the only solution to albino?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-umbrella-the-only-solution-to-albino/16927)

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**Author:** [@lcy03406](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/lcy03406)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [October 9, 2018, 9:13pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-umbrella-the-only-solution-to-albino/16927 "2018-10-09T21:13:43Z")

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Our medical technology wins against zombie infection, radiation, fungi spore, but fails to albino. We can mutate our skin to shell, feather, or fur, but it has to be albino shell or albino fur. Post-modern technology c…

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## [Curious about people’s opinion about the change on the knife spear to FRAGILE\_MELEE](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/curious-about-people-s-opinion-about-the-change-on-the-knife-spear-to-fragile-melee/15694)

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**Author:** [@Gunpowder17](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Gunpowder17)\
**Replies:** 67\
**Last updated:** [October 9, 2018, 5:53am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/curious-about-people-s-opinion-about-the-change-on-the-knife-spear-to-fragile-melee/15694 "2018-10-09T05:53:23Z")

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There’s been a lot of backlash about it from both sides regarding the nerf to make it more breakable and I was curious just how many people were on both sides. I personally have no opinion about it because I start the ga…

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## [Is there a need for a detailed mutation guide?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-there-a-need-for-a-detailed-mutation-guide/16847)

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**Author:** [@Demosthenes](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Demosthenes)\
**Replies:** 16\
**Last updated:** [October 9, 2018, 12:05am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-there-a-need-for-a-detailed-mutation-guide/16847 "2018-10-09T00:05:56Z")

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Or is it better for players to stumble around in the dark?

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## [Skitter bots are heavy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/skitter-bots-are-heavy/16916)

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**Author:** [@Medi\_Ding](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Medi_Ding)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [October 8, 2018, 9:49pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/skitter-bots-are-heavy/16916 "2018-10-08T21:49:28Z")

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I am playing with the Salvaged Robots mod by Sunshine, so I have a reason to lug around some broken skitterbots. However, they are very heavy. Is there anything I can build that will help me carry them around, like a mak…

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