# Game Talk

**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/c/game-talk/27.md?page=134

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## [Idea discussion "Survivor tricks"](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/idea-discussion-survivor-tricks/20251)

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**Author:** [@Umbra.Animo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Umbra.Animo)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [June 5, 2019, 12:38am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/idea-discussion-survivor-tricks/20251 "2019-06-05T00:38:56Z")

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note, this is mostly a place to chat about Ideas of things we think would be cool for the game. mostly to both just say them but also to help Improve them. This is not an “I am working on these” kind of thing just a chat…

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## [How does MGOAL\_FIND\_ITEM\_GROUP work?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-does-mgoal-find-item-group-work/20250)

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**Author:** [@faefux](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/faefux)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [June 5, 2019, 12:29am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-does-mgoal-find-item-group-work/20250 "2019-06-05T00:29:42Z")

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Hey, I tried to add an MGOAL\_FIND\_ITEM\_GROUP mission, i created an item group of different meds but i couldn’t get it working. Feel like i’m being dense. Can someone spell this out for me or give me an example?

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## [Do coffee trees give coffee powder?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-coffee-trees-give-coffee-powder/20013)

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**Author:** [@duhuh](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/duhuh)\
**Replies:** 34\
**Last updated:** [June 4, 2019, 5:52pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-coffee-trees-give-coffee-powder/20013 "2019-06-04T17:52:55Z")

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I found 2 coffee trees at a coffee shop. Can I get new coffee powder from the tree? Or, I have to wait for a cat to eat the coffee beans?

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## [Coming back to the Cataclysm](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/coming-back-to-the-cataclysm/20238)

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**Author:** [@Zelphir](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Zelphir)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [June 4, 2019, 12:46pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/coming-back-to-the-cataclysm/20238 "2019-06-04T12:46:51Z")

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Hi everyone, I started playing cataclysm back is 0.B I think and then into C and I need some help coming to terms with some perceived problems. Everything is frozen, all the time, even when I chuck the frozen things D…

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## [Jury Rigged Robots Crash to Main Menu Fix](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/jury-rigged-robots-crash-to-main-menu-fix/16266)

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**Author:** [@TheSalamanderDJ](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheSalamanderDJ)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [June 4, 2019, 7:19am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/jury-rigged-robots-crash-to-main-menu-fix/16266 "2019-06-04T07:19:01Z")

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I have taken the time to fix the crashes brought on by the current Jury Rigged Robots available through the launcher that causes the world creation to crash. Link below: https://drive.google.com/open?id=14WzjMIEsXPLHzWa…

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## [Even More Mutations Mod](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/even-more-mutations-mod/18711)

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**Author:** [@Uvi](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Uvi)\
**Replies:** 15\
**Last updated:** [June 4, 2019, 12:34am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/even-more-mutations-mod/18711 "2019-06-04T00:34:48Z")

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Hi! This mod adds three new mutation branches: Crab, Snake and Rabbit, with some very minor changes to existing ones. Their respective mutagens and serums spawn in labs, and recipies can be learned from books that are a…

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## [Umm........help please](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/umm-help-please/20236)

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**Author:** [@grayeco](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/grayeco)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [June 2, 2019, 9:25pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/umm-help-please/20236 "2019-06-02T21:25:17Z")

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i have an error and don’t know how to fix it here it is DEBUG : Error: item group “NC\_EVAC\_SHOPKEEP\_misc” already defined with type “collection” FUNCTION : bool main\_menu::load\_character\_tab() FILE : src/main\_…

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## [New player questions](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/new-player-questions/20233)

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**Author:** [@gtgiygus](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/gtgiygus)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [June 2, 2019, 1:15pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/new-player-questions/20233 "2019-06-02T13:15:38Z")

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So I have been playing off and on awhile, now that I have some of the basics down, but there are a few things that I can’t figure out/need advice on. First is electricity. I have been collecting batteries from phones e…

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## [Does anyone play with no monsters?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/does-anyone-play-with-no-monsters/20223)

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**Author:** [@Estranged](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Estranged)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [June 2, 2019, 11:55am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/does-anyone-play-with-no-monsters/20223 "2019-06-02T11:55:37Z")

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As the title says. I started a a new game ages ago with the no monsters mod enabled and it took me a couple of in game days to realise that it got rid of everything apart from wildlife, dunno about npcs?, and it wasn’t …

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## [Diagonal tiles consensus?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/diagonal-tiles-consensus/20218)

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**Author:** [@lscruz](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/lscruz)\
**Replies:** 22\
**Last updated:** [June 2, 2019, 10:19am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/diagonal-tiles-consensus/20218 "2019-06-02T10:19:24Z")

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Hi guys! I’ve been tweaking the move\_cost code to account for the holed rotated vehicles ( I know Kevin wants to cover the holes with parts but man… i tried :expressionless: ). Anyways, so far diagonal tiles in general …

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## [Seasons seem really bugged](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/seasons-seem-really-bugged/20206)

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**Author:** [@crazykiddeath](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/crazykiddeath)\
**Replies:** 16\
**Last updated:** [June 2, 2019, 4:37am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/seasons-seem-really-bugged/20206 "2019-06-02T04:37:33Z")

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Really weird stuff, seasons are all over the place. 2 day difference in settings on the top two gives a 2 season difference and the bottom one shows what are supposed to be day one spawns with normal evolut…

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## [How to kill giant worms?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-kill-giant-worms/20219)

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**Author:** [@duhuh](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/duhuh)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [June 2, 2019, 12:28am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-kill-giant-worms/20219 "2019-06-02T00:28:03Z")

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I have a longbow and charcoal forge but no vehicle. After I escape from lab, I live in a nearby LMOE shelter. The worms are blocking the entrance of the lab now.

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## [So what's up with the no fungal mod not actually having the effect of no fungal enemies anymore?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/so-whats-up-with-the-no-fungal-mod-not-actually-having-the-effect-of-no-fungal-enemies-anymore/20191)

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**Author:** [@TooDAMNMuch](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TooDAMNMuch)\
**Replies:** 19\
**Last updated:** [June 2, 2019, 12:10am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/so-whats-up-with-the-no-fungal-mod-not-actually-having-the-effect-of-no-fungal-enemies-anymore/20191 "2019-06-02T00:10:31Z")

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self explanatory, read title.

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## [No Freeze Mod Release](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/no-freeze-mod-release/16709)

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**Author:** [@Poragon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Poragon)\
**Replies:** 23\
**Last updated:** [June 1, 2019, 10:28pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/no-freeze-mod-release/16709 "2019-06-01T22:28:50Z")

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No frills, no fancy, no extras. Brought by the usual rigors survey methods showing a demand, no freeze is now out. No Freeze lowers the freezing point of all comestibles in the game, including water, to -1000 F. Due to …

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## [Monsters who cannot be dissected for bionics should not incorrectly state that they can be](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/monsters-who-cannot-be-dissected-for-bionics-should-not-incorrectly-state-that-they-can-be/20182)

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**Author:** [@TooDAMNMuch](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TooDAMNMuch)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [May 31, 2019, 5:57pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/monsters-who-cannot-be-dissected-for-bionics-should-not-incorrectly-state-that-they-can-be/20182 "2019-05-31T17:57:47Z")

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i guess the reason is that zombie pheromones count as a CBM (what the fuck? oh well though) for no apparent reason and give the message about “you might find some bionics dissecting this” even though there’s actually no …

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## [NPC jabberwock/zombie slayer questline bugged](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/npc-jabberwock-zombie-slayer-questline-bugged/20212)

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**Author:** [@draghi](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/draghi)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [May 31, 2019, 5:34pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/npc-jabberwock-zombie-slayer-questline-bugged/20212 "2019-05-31T17:34:58Z")

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hello. i’ve helped a random NPC with the jabberwork quest then had him join me, and gave me another quest to kill 100 zombies. I didn’t do the quest but the next day the dialogue had only 1 option (yes i killed them) des…

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## [To Jsonize Mycus Mutations](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/to-jsonize-mycus-mutations/20213)

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**Author:** [@Eirenex](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Eirenex)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [May 31, 2019, 11:41am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/to-jsonize-mycus-mutations/20213 "2019-05-31T11:41:38Z")

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Hey there! I have been a great a fan of making mutations back then, but i did ran into some walls sadly. (though that was many months ago too) I think that it is still a issue however. : Some Mycus mutation still use …

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## [Challenge: Nuclear winter](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/challenge-nuclear-winter/20205)

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**Author:** [@crazykiddeath](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/crazykiddeath)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [May 30, 2019, 6:44pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/challenge-nuclear-winter/20205 "2019-05-30T18:44:38Z")

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Synopsis When the bombs fell, humanities worst fears were realised. Nuclear facilities across the country were caught in a chain reaction and massive amounts of matter was thrown into the atmosphere blocking much of the…

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## [\[Android\]How do I fix the UI](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/android-how-do-i-fix-the-ui/19429)

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**Author:** [@Tiago\_Vieira](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Tiago_Vieira)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [May 30, 2019, 6:01pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/android-how-do-i-fix-the-ui/19429 "2019-05-30T18:01:31Z")

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Screen is too full with information, how do I change that?

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## [Food DUDE! (what DON'T we have?)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/food-dude-what-dont-we-have/19641)

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**Author:** [@TheZoneWizard](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheZoneWizard)\
**Replies:** 74\
**Last updated:** [May 30, 2019, 5:37pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/food-dude-what-dont-we-have/19641 "2019-05-30T17:37:32Z")

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So While pondering can openers and pull tab can products I thought…Gee, don’t have a variety of food in game. I thought for the grins we can add whatever don’t have in game, here and collect that shlock for anyone wantin…

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## [Battery drain for acid?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/battery-drain-for-acid/20170)

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**Author:** [@Umbra.Animo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Umbra.Animo)\
**Replies:** 23\
**Last updated:** [May 30, 2019, 5:11pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/battery-drain-for-acid/20170 "2019-05-30T17:11:56Z")

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So anyway to drain batteries so I can use them to make acid? got a few barely charged batteries from mostly dead phones

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## [Looks changed and no idea why?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/looks-changed-and-no-idea-why/20126)

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**Author:** [@Umbra.Animo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Umbra.Animo)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [May 30, 2019, 4:25am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/looks-changed-and-no-idea-why/20126 "2019-05-30T04:25:01Z")

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ok so after having to do a huge redo on my game to fix some big bugs I had to re-add my mods. but when I loaded the game it looks very different but my game looked very different before any idea why this happened?

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## [Making certain cooking recipes repeatedly give the "messed up and lost materials" message and don't consume ingredients](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/making-certain-cooking-recipes-repeatedly-give-the-messed-up-and-lost-materials-message-and-dont-consume-ingredients/20195)

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**Author:** [@Katrina752](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Katrina752)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [May 30, 2019, 3:03am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/making-certain-cooking-recipes-repeatedly-give-the-messed-up-and-lost-materials-message-and-dont-consume-ingredients/20195 "2019-05-30T03:03:19Z")

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It’s mostly things involving liquids like soda and wine. Spezi and fruit wine must are the biggest offenders I can think of off the top of my head. It repeatedly gives the message popup that details replacing lost ingre…

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## [How to instail Bionics](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-instail-bionics/20198)

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**Author:** [@Umbra.Animo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Umbra.Animo)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [May 30, 2019, 12:01am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-instail-bionics/20198 "2019-05-30T00:01:58Z")

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so until recently, I have been able to add Bionics without an auto doc. but Know I can. So do I just use an autodoc to get them? also, did they ever add that Bionic slot limit?

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## [Overassigned Shortcuts in Inventory](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/overassigned-shortcuts-in-inventory/20162)

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**Author:** [@Y2Kafka](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Y2Kafka)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [May 29, 2019, 10:06pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/overassigned-shortcuts-in-inventory/20162 "2019-05-29T22:06:54Z")

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Not sure HOW it happened all I know is that pressing = to reassign shortcuts doesn’t work, and shortcuts for items on the ground are fine. Shortcuts don’t work so it’s REALLY annoying to play the game. I want to enjoy …

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## [Mouse Cursor To View](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/mouse-cursor-to-view/20184)

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**Author:** [@Gunpowder17](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Gunpowder17)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [May 28, 2019, 5:00pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/mouse-cursor-to-view/20184 "2019-05-28T17:00:10Z")

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Hey, I read that there was a bug with the mouse being used to look at items and that it was being worked on. What’s the progress report on that?

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## [Crash Confusion](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crash-confusion/20179)

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**Author:** [@Grimm\_Spector](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Grimm_Spector)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [May 28, 2019, 3:22pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crash-confusion/20179 "2019-05-28T15:22:08Z")

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I’m getting a crash on load that indicates something about hydroponics already being loaded, and the crash log is at the link below. Would like to fix, as I would like to continue my save! Thanks. https://pastebin.com/3…

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## [Region\_overlay for field\_coverage. How should it work?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/region-overlay-for-field-coverage-how-should-it-work/20178)

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**Author:** [@Hirmuolio](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Hirmuolio)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [May 28, 2019, 10:02am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/region-overlay-for-field-coverage-how-should-it-work/20178 "2019-05-28T10:02:40Z")

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I decided to try to make a mod that has a bit different looking region. Step 1 is to change how fields look. I decided to try to do this with region\_overlay. First test: https://pastebin.com/yCqXSAmK This is just the …

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## [Does anyone Have a copy of 8212? I'm looking for a build that runs malkeus's lazy updates](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/does-anyone-have-a-copy-of-8212-im-looking-for-a-build-that-runs-malkeuss-lazy-updates/20151)

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**Author:** [@Barbreaker](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Barbreaker)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [May 28, 2019, 2:34pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/does-anyone-have-a-copy-of-8212-im-looking-for-a-build-that-runs-malkeuss-lazy-updates/20151 "2019-05-28T14:34:27Z")

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This post is pretty much what it says on the tin, I’ve looked for it in the repo, but none of the .8 builds go earlier than 85XX. Does anyone have copy of 8166 or 8212 floating around on their hard drive? Or otherwise ha…

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## [Saving cells as prefabs(I custom built a multi-tile base in game and am looking to add it to buildings/specials list)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/saving-cells-as-prefabs-i-custom-built-a-multi-tile-base-in-game-and-am-looking-to-add-it-to-buildings-specials-list/20080)

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**Author:** [@Bobdole44](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bobdole44)\
**Replies:** 16\
**Last updated:** [May 28, 2019, 6:15am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/saving-cells-as-prefabs-i-custom-built-a-multi-tile-base-in-game-and-am-looking-to-add-it-to-buildings-specials-list/20080 "2019-05-28T06:15:49Z")

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Like the headline says I’ve custom build a complex that spans multiple cells in an older experimental and want to be able to call it to place it as a special from the over map debug menu into a newer version to keep work…

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