# Game Talk

**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/c/game-talk/27.md?page=116

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## [Newb UPS question](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/newb-ups-question/20849)

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**Author:** [@gtgiygus](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/gtgiygus)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [September 18, 2019, 1:02am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/newb-ups-question/20849 "2019-09-18T01:02:37Z")

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So I have been trying to experimenting with UPS power supply. Note I am talking about the made item here: UPS and not a CBM. I found some power armor, crafted the above UPS, put a large battery in it, shows 1000/1000. …

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## [Anyone ever have a weird flickering?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/anyone-ever-have-a-weird-flickering/21375)

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**Author:** [@Brian\_Cahoon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Brian_Cahoon)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [September 18, 2019, 12:29am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/anyone-ever-have-a-weird-flickering/21375 "2019-09-18T00:29:45Z")

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I get this weird flicker in my game it happens like every couple of seconds and its really annoying. But its odd because the tiles themselves dont do it, just my character, items on screen and any of the words and number…

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## [Predators should smell blood](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/predators-should-smell-blood/20342)

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**Author:** [@Wojtek94](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Wojtek94)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [September 17, 2019, 11:27pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/predators-should-smell-blood/20342 "2019-09-17T23:27:46Z")

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As the title says, some predators such as wolves, bears etc should be able to smell fresh blood. This feature would be crucial if it comes to hunting and butchering as well when we are wounded and losing blood. Predators…

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## [Is it a good time to hop in unstable versions?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-it-a-good-time-to-hop-in-unstable-versions/21323)

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**Author:** [@Sneaky\_Potato](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Sneaky_Potato)\
**Replies:** 13\
**Last updated:** [September 16, 2019, 7:34pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-it-a-good-time-to-hop-in-unstable-versions/21323 "2019-09-16T19:34:50Z")

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Hi im from back then when 0.D was unstable, now i returned and im playing the stable version but i want to know if the current experimentals are broken/unplayable/tedious or if they are fine and just have extra features. …

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## [Auto-tilling seems broken now](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/auto-tilling-seems-broken-now/21363)

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**Author:** [@ppanda0421](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ppanda0421)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [September 16, 2019, 7:13pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/auto-tilling-seems-broken-now/21363 "2019-09-16T19:13:55Z")

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Upgraded to 9624 from 9503 and now auto-tilling appears broken. Issues: Set up a farming/plot zone. Auto-tilling with hoe (or shovel takes 3 minutes) per plot and you get spam of ‘resume task x2 or x3’ each time. Takes…

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## [The intercom's acting weird](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-intercoms-acting-weird/21362)

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**Author:** [@MutaMan](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/MutaMan)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [September 16, 2019, 7:10pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-intercoms-acting-weird/21362 "2019-09-16T19:10:18Z")

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Build 9625: Excuse me if this was fixed already, or if it is a known issue by one of the mods I have listed at the bottom. So I found my first Hub01 building and did two quests for the intercom. Earlier in my game I fou…

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## [Thieving NPCs taking my stuff](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/thieving-npcs-taking-my-stuff/21346)

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**Author:** [@Paul\_Blay](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Paul_Blay)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [September 16, 2019, 6:01pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/thieving-npcs-taking-my-stuff/21346 "2019-09-16T18:01:33Z")

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So, random NPC just walking into my car picking up my stuff. Do I need to declare a camp or something to register my ownership? I don’t really want a follower yet, but I don’t want to have to blow his head off either.

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## [(Build 9269) game crashed when killing zombies atop of chair](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/build-9269-game-crashed-when-killing-zombies-atop-of-chair/21360)

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**Author:** [@Ricky\_Van](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ricky_Van)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [September 16, 2019, 5:16pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/build-9269-game-crashed-when-killing-zombies-atop-of-chair/21360 "2019-09-16T17:16:53Z")

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so in experimental build 9269, using MSX Deadpeople tileset, im just walking around the city until i found a FEMA camp, i decided to loot the camp but didn’t expect so many zombies inside so i got overwhelmed and has to …

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## [Why can't I harvest tainted hides?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/why-cant-i-harvest-tainted-hides/21357)

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**Author:** [@DeWolf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DeWolf)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [September 16, 2019, 3:55pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/why-cant-i-harvest-tainted-hides/21357 "2019-09-16T15:55:17Z")

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Pretty self explanatory for some reason I cannot seem to obtain tainted hides or pelts from any creature with it’s harvest. I even set the harvest to 2 and higher but I always get the you failed to harvest message.

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## [Dropping stuff after reloading does not behave as normal](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/dropping-stuff-after-reloading-does-not-behave-as-normal/21358)

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**Author:** [@Paul\_Blay](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Paul_Blay)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [September 16, 2019, 9:04am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/dropping-stuff-after-reloading-does-not-behave-as-normal/21358 "2019-09-16T09:04:48Z")

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When you drop something after reloading (for example, a battery in a welder) it doesn’t fall in the same way as if you just drop it from your inventory. To test this, stand on top of a recharging station in a vehicle an…

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## [TIlling soil manually is probably too easy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tilling-soil-manually-is-probably-too-easy/21337)

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**Author:** [@Paul\_Blay](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Paul_Blay)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [September 16, 2019, 2:58am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tilling-soil-manually-is-probably-too-easy/21337 "2019-09-16T02:58:37Z")

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So I noticed that with a hoe (or presumably shovel) it takes game-time seconds to till a tile of soil and seems to drain no more stamina than walking. That feels quite a bit too good to be true in comparison to my limite…

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## [Rising Sun not recognizing my Katanas?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/rising-sun-not-recognizing-my-katanas/21350)

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**Author:** [@MarcieTheVillain](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/MarcieTheVillain)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [September 16, 2019, 1:48am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/rising-sun-not-recognizing-my-katanas/21350 "2019-09-16T01:48:03Z")

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Just like it says on the tin: I have two katanas that I’ve looted from a local pawn shop, and in that same run into town I got the Internal Combustion Fundamentals book. Excited to finally bring my dream of being a chiti…

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## [The turret didn't despawn](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-turret-didnt-despawn/21352)

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**Author:** [@Invalid\_Username](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Invalid_Username)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [September 16, 2019, 1:11am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-turret-didnt-despawn/21352 "2019-09-16T01:11:50Z")

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So, is using a Science ID card no longer a reliable way of ensuring you don’t walk face-first into a turret armed with a goddamn Ma Deuce anymore, or what? I got the door open just fine, but the turret didn’t make like a…

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## [Heavy Duty Boards vs Heavy Duty Stow Boards - Stow Boards too good?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/heavy-duty-boards-vs-heavy-duty-stow-boards-stow-boards-too-good/21351)

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**Author:** [@MarcieTheVillain](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/MarcieTheVillain)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [September 16, 2019, 12:35am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/heavy-duty-boards-vs-heavy-duty-stow-boards-stow-boards-too-good/21351 "2019-09-16T00:35:52Z")

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Heavy Duty Boards have 450 Durability, weigh 28.4 lbs, and cost 1 Steel Plating. By comparison, a Heavy Duty Stow Board is a noticeably increased 664 Durability and comes with 47.50 L of storage space - everything else, …

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## ["quit without saving" option](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/quit-without-saving-option/20777)

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**Author:** [@Bio](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bio)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [September 15, 2019, 11:29pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/quit-without-saving-option/20777 "2019-09-15T23:29:37Z")

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It can be a real nuisance sometimes when I start a new character just to bug test some things I think might not be working, then have to close the game and re-open it so I didn’t screw up the map or give an unfair advant…

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## [What would your survivor notes be?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-would-your-survivor-notes-be/18280)

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**Author:** [@Medi\_Ding](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Medi_Ding)\
**Replies:** 123\
**Last updated:** [September 15, 2019, 11:12pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-would-your-survivor-notes-be/18280 "2019-09-15T23:12:04Z")

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“Puny tank thing I can take him I can take him I can ta” “I swear, those mole rats want to screw me over. Kept making noise under my car, bringing zombies. rip car.” “THE BASEMENT IS A LIE”

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## [Z-level mycus spread question](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/z-level-mycus-spread-question/21349)

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**Author:** [@MutaMan](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/MutaMan)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [September 15, 2019, 10:52pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/z-level-mycus-spread-question/21349 "2019-09-15T22:52:23Z")

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With z-levels on, does the fungus automatically spread between the levels or do you still have to be unlucky enough for a fungoid or spore to wander down or upstairs?

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## [A possible bug?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-possible-bug/21348)

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**Author:** [@FreyaValentine](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/FreyaValentine)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [September 15, 2019, 10:40pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-possible-bug/21348 "2019-09-15T22:40:49Z")

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Hope I am doing this right first time making a topic. First off, I’m not entirely sure this is a bug or by design. There’s no error message associated with this situation and it’s more of a Trait interaction thing. Invo…

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## [Build 9612 broke all my mods!](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/build-9612-broke-all-my-mods/21302)

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**Author:** [@Malkeus](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Malkeus)\
**Replies:** 32\
**Last updated:** [September 15, 2019, 9:49pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/build-9612-broke-all-my-mods/21302 "2019-09-15T21:49:24Z")

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LOL Now that I’ve got your attention…build 9612, while very helpful going forward, is going to cause some headaches in the short term. If you updated to build 9612 and your mods are busted, post about it here along with…

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## [A small change to MST\_Extra to add functionality to its Charcoal Purifier furniture](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-small-change-to-mst-extra-to-add-functionality-to-its-charcoal-purifier-furniture/21347)

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**Author:** [@DrakeDragon8](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DrakeDragon8)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [September 15, 2019, 8:42pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-small-change-to-mst-extra-to-add-functionality-to-its-charcoal-purifier-furniture/21347 "2019-09-15T20:42:28Z")

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Awhile ago I built this thing trying to see what it could do only to find it could do nothing so I left it alone. This morning I decided that I might as well try to do something about it for giggles. I now understand w…

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## [I can not remove the roof!](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-can-not-remove-the-roof/21344)

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**Author:** [@retroHunter](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/retroHunter)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [September 15, 2019, 5:33pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-can-not-remove-the-roof/21344 "2019-09-15T17:33:36Z")

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Demolished the walls with a jackhammer. The roof crumbled. But… What the hell is wrong?!

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## [NPC Lumber Disaster](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/npc-lumber-disaster/21259)

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**Author:** [@DrakeDragon8](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DrakeDragon8)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [September 15, 2019, 9:04am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/npc-lumber-disaster/21259 "2019-09-15T09:04:43Z")

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So I set 2 NPCs to cut down trees for about 1 day and I come back to check on them It said something of an infinite loop and turned debug on for me.

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## [Sponge being non-craftable is intended?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/sponge-being-non-craftable-is-intended/21331)

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**Author:** [@Tamior](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Tamior)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [September 15, 2019, 7:23am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/sponge-being-non-craftable-is-intended/21331 "2019-09-15T07:23:06Z")

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I really enjoy playing with low item spawn rates worlds where you have to rely on crafting heavily. However, ever since you need a sponge to wash most items, crafting metagame became really weird. Am I missing some way…

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## [Vehicle - free parts repair?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vehicle-free-parts-repair/21287)

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**Author:** [@FunkleBlaze](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/FunkleBlaze)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [September 14, 2019, 12:32am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vehicle-free-parts-repair/21287 "2019-09-14T00:32:29Z")

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When I repair sth with for example ‘makeshift welder’ then I’m using energy from it and scrap metal. But when i install sth on vehicle and repair it then I’m using only energy from welder? I’m not sure if it is not in o…

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## [Segmentation Fault / Bad\_alloc when travelling far from reality bubble](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/segmentation-fault-bad-alloc-when-travelling-far-from-reality-bubble/21317)

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**Author:** [@BobbyFatt](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BobbyFatt)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [September 13, 2019, 1:54pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/segmentation-fault-bad-alloc-when-travelling-far-from-reality-bubble/21317 "2019-09-13T13:54:34Z")

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Started when i updated experimental to where jumper cables were fixed. When i went back into an already explored town a short drive from my base it would crash, everytime. Figured the save was just doomed so started over…

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## [Random blank crash since build 9606](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/random-blank-crash-since-build-9606/21321)

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**Author:** [@Ricky\_Van](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ricky_Van)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [September 13, 2019, 9:35am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/random-blank-crash-since-build-9606/21321 "2019-09-13T09:35:58Z")

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so this error happens when im walking around the city and found some roadblock with turrets on it. i approach it and then this blank crash happens. this is not the first time i got this crash, since build 9606 this bl…

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## [How many firearms are in the game? and is there gonna be more firearms?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-many-firearms-are-in-the-game-and-is-there-gonna-be-more-firearms/21278)

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**Author:** [@Ricky\_Van](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ricky_Van)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [September 12, 2019, 9:29pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-many-firearms-are-in-the-game-and-is-there-gonna-be-more-firearms/21278 "2019-09-12T21:29:10Z")

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i’ve been thinking about firearms in CDDA, because i’ve seen a lot of firearms added into the game (including firearms from the mod added into the game and mod from forum) and i got this question. is there gonna be more…

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## [Friendly robots ammo question](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/friendly-robots-ammo-question/21314)

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**Author:** [@MutaMan](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/MutaMan)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [September 12, 2019, 7:45pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/friendly-robots-ammo-question/21314 "2019-09-12T19:45:35Z")

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So I just hacked a chicken walker, mad man, I know. I have one question about having one as an escort though, do they run out of ammo? If not, yay. If so, sigh, to storage until I need’em then.

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## [NPC acting weird after quest line](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/npc-acting-weird-after-quest-line/21310)

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**Author:** [@MutaMan](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/MutaMan)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [September 12, 2019, 11:29am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/npc-acting-weird-after-quest-line/21310 "2019-09-12T11:29:35Z")

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Version 0.D. So I got this feline mutant npc that asked me to get them some patient records, what an ordeal that was, to find the only record in a what felt like a thousand map tile radius Then they asked me to bring th…

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## [Removing the Large Mutation Threshold](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/removing-the-large-mutation-threshold/21298)

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**Author:** [@Gilliph](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Gilliph)\
**Replies:** 25\
**Last updated:** [September 12, 2019, 4:23am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/removing-the-large-mutation-threshold/21298 "2019-09-12T04:23:49Z")

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Opening this post to debate about the Large Mutation and wether is should be set as a threshold mutation or an open mutation to other branches. To sum it up, you got four different types of this mutation chain. Inconve…

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