# Game Talk

**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/c/game-talk/27.md?page=112

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## [Align upstairs and downstairs?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/align-upstairs-and-downstairs/21652)

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**Author:** [@MutaMan](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/MutaMan)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [October 10, 2019, 3:11pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/align-upstairs-and-downstairs/21652 "2019-10-10T15:11:50Z")

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This is one setting I haven’t messed with and dont feel like creating and investing into an entire new world to test out, so I’ve come to ask about a very particular part of its description. “, even if this results in ug…

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## [Vehicle Welding Rig =/= Soldering Iron when repairing](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vehicle-welding-rig-soldering-iron-when-repairing/21648)

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**Author:** [@Hushpoy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Hushpoy)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [October 10, 2019, 9:00am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vehicle-welding-rig-soldering-iron-when-repairing/21648 "2019-10-10T09:00:54Z")

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It has been a few weeks since I updated but now when I want to repair plastic items my vehicle welding rig they don’t show up on the repair list, despite needing a soldering iron for the welding kit component used to cra…

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## [Where should I initialize a timer variable for my CBM?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/where-should-i-initialize-a-timer-variable-for-my-cbm/21640)

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**Author:** [@HarrisonGreenlee](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/HarrisonGreenlee)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [October 9, 2019, 9:36pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/where-should-i-initialize-a-timer-variable-for-my-cbm/21640 "2019-10-09T21:36:21Z")

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Hello, I am trying to create a starting CBM that counts down and then, if not removed by an autodoc in time, kills the player. This will add the the game by allowing dungeon speedrun-based challenge-starts. I have alre…

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## [Explosive renovations?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/explosive-renovations/21633)

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**Author:** [@Walegrin](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Walegrin)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [October 9, 2019, 6:10pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/explosive-renovations/21633 "2019-10-09T18:10:18Z")

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I’m thinking of making a pond and looking to find a way to justify creating on in-game. The obvious route would be mini nukes, :crazy\_face:, but that seems a bit excessive. My plan is to dig down several levels and the…

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## [Advanced Inventory not working](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/advanced-inventory-not-working/21637)

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**Author:** [@aaron819](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/aaron819)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [October 9, 2019, 12:43pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/advanced-inventory-not-working/21637 "2019-10-09T12:43:52Z")

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Yesterday, after I got done moving all my stuff to my new base, the advanced inventory menu just stopped showing the items on the ground. Tried updating to a new build, but that didn’t fix it.

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## [Dropping an aluminium can of drink (frozen) onto raging fire does not thaw it](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/dropping-an-aluminium-can-of-drink-frozen-onto-raging-fire-does-not-thaw-it/21636)

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**Author:** [@Paul\_Blay](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Paul_Blay)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [October 9, 2019, 10:20am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/dropping-an-aluminium-can-of-drink-frozen-onto-raging-fire-does-not-thaw-it/21636 "2019-10-09T10:20:50Z")

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If you drop a large plastic bottle full of frozen drink onto a fire it melts (and the plastic bottle becomes burnt). If you try the same trick with a raging fire the bottle instantly burns away and the contents spill out…

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## [The road to success is practice, perservere, perfect! (Tiny mod idea)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-road-to-success-is-practice-perservere-perfect-tiny-mod-idea/21632)

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**Author:** [@Paul\_Blay](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Paul_Blay)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [October 8, 2019, 7:38pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-road-to-success-is-practice-perservere-perfect-tiny-mod-idea/21632 "2019-10-08T19:38:35Z")

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Mechanics 12 is when you can add your third engine to your car. With no mods the recipes with the highest difficulty for mechanics are drive by wire controls suppressor muzzle brake pneumatic bolt driver mininuke launc…

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## [Winter-proof vehicle tank](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/winter-proof-vehicle-tank/21592)

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**Author:** [@Paul\_Blay](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Paul_Blay)\
**Replies:** 15\
**Last updated:** [October 8, 2019, 11:00am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/winter-proof-vehicle-tank/21592 "2019-10-08T11:00:29Z")

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Simple idea, I don’t know how simple it would be to implement. Vehicle part “Winter-proof tank 60L”. Recipe: Vehicle tank 60L + Electric blanket x 2 + Blanket x 4 + Copper wire x 4 + Electronic Scraps x 5. When installe…

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## [Is there a mod to play without a car?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-there-a-mod-to-play-without-a-car/21625)

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**Author:** [@CottonEyeJoe](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/CottonEyeJoe)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [October 8, 2019, 6:05am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-there-a-mod-to-play-without-a-car/21625 "2019-10-08T06:05:39Z")

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Almost all enemies become weak and minor after player finds the good car and auto welding. I want to increase difficulty level and change the car-driven playing style. Is there a mod to play without a cars? Preferably wi…

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## [Fur is murder suggestion](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/fur-is-murder-suggestion/21618)

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**Author:** [@Paul\_Blay](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Paul_Blay)\
**Replies:** 15\
**Last updated:** [October 8, 2019, 4:07am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/fur-is-murder-suggestion/21618 "2019-10-08T04:07:55Z")

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For the ethical(?) post apocalyptic survivor - more recipes allowing faux fur pelts. Particularly the ‘winter survivor’ series of items. Feel morally superior as you luxuriate in your Winter Survivor Suit while eating y…

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## [Is the bionics nerf intentional?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-the-bionics-nerf-intentional/21601)

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**Author:** [@Abraham\_Limpo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Abraham_Limpo)\
**Replies:** 17\
**Last updated:** [October 7, 2019, 11:25pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-the-bionics-nerf-intentional/21601 "2019-10-07T23:25:23Z")

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I see some of the latest builds introduced a new power measurement for bionic implants, that also seems to have capped bionic power at a paltry 2000 units. Is this intentional? Is there a way to up the limit? 2k storage…

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## [Dead people tile set](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/dead-people-tile-set/21620)

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**Author:** [@LuLu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/LuLu)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [October 7, 2019, 5:21pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/dead-people-tile-set/21620 "2019-10-07T17:21:15Z")

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Is there a working link to the most recent dead people tile set?

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## [Sometimes you can walk on top of walls, sometimes you can't](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/sometimes-you-can-walk-on-top-of-walls-sometimes-you-cant/21624)

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**Author:** [@Paul\_Blay](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Paul_Blay)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [October 7, 2019, 9:50pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/sometimes-you-can-walk-on-top-of-walls-sometimes-you-cant/21624 "2019-10-07T21:50:37Z")

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So been raiding the raiders using the probably very unoriginal tactic of putting a stepladder next to the wall and climbing on top of it. If you walk around you can usually find a route inside - and if you can’t you can …

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## [So are the default harvest entries hardcoded?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/so-are-the-default-harvest-entries-hardcoded/21614)

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**Author:** [@DeWolf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DeWolf)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [October 7, 2019, 6:40pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/so-are-the-default-harvest-entries-hardcoded/21614 "2019-10-07T18:40:03Z")

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I am trying to edit the harvest entry for default zombies as while this will likely unbalance the game heavily make it so like with a normal dead human they give usable skin. However if I edit the zombie entry in the har…

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## [Going shopping with my Doom Bus](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/going-shopping-with-my-doom-bus/21617)

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**Author:** [@Teh\_Overmnind](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Teh_Overmnind)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [October 7, 2019, 8:22am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/going-shopping-with-my-doom-bus/21617 "2019-10-07T08:22:50Z")

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couldn’t find parking… ah… found a spot /shamelessshowingoff

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## [Hunger/thirst system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/hunger-thirst-system/21612)

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**Author:** [@Brian\_Cahoon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Brian_Cahoon)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [October 7, 2019, 3:38am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/hunger-thirst-system/21612 "2019-10-07T03:38:51Z")

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So after innumerable game re-starts over many months of time, I have FINALLY began living more than a day or two. But over the last few months it seems like the hunger/thirst system changed. I cant seem to figure it out…

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## [More .50 Cal weapons?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/more-50-cal-weapons/21410)

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**Author:** [@Ricky\_Van](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ricky_Van)\
**Replies:** 23\
**Last updated:** [October 7, 2019, 2:22am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/more-50-cal-weapons/21410 "2019-10-07T02:22:28Z")

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so i just looking around CDDA github, seeing gun JSON and found that there’s only 3 .50 cal weapons inside (Barrett M107A1, M2 browning and the turret version of M2 browning) should i make a mod for more .50 cal weapon…

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## [Inflexible martial art teachings](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/inflexible-martial-art-teachings/21606)

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**Author:** [@MutaMan](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/MutaMan)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [October 7, 2019, 12:34am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/inflexible-martial-art-teachings/21606 "2019-10-07T00:34:16Z")

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Martial arts as they’re now are great. Unfortunately they are immensly inflexible and don’t lend each other’s teachings to your character in a meaningful way except for the one you’re currently using. Realistically speak…

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## [Bug report | endless&dead sleep](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bug-report-endless-dead-sleep/21600)

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**Author:** [@Defective](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Defective)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [October 7, 2019, 12:29am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bug-report-endless-dead-sleep/21600 "2019-10-07T00:29:08Z")

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So… if player was sleeping and die while naping AND afret “look what after”\* they chouse yes game will try waith untill player woke up exclude jumping in after-death mode… game stop accepting any keys and must killed wit…

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## ["Challenge" Idea](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/challenge-idea/21603)

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**Author:** [@Matthew\_Rice](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Matthew_Rice)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [October 7, 2019, 12:27am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/challenge-idea/21603 "2019-10-07T00:27:45Z")

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So… its not much of a challenge but i had an idea for a “challenge”: -Start with all points into madness-based traits and Melee. -You cant make Weapons at all or use found weapons, you have to use artifacts. -once a w…

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## [Im getting an error in he newest experimental](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/im-getting-an-error-in-he-newest-experimental/21610)

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**Author:** [@Brian\_Cahoon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Brian_Cahoon)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [October 6, 2019, 10:46pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/im-getting-an-error-in-he-newest-experimental/21610 "2019-10-06T22:46:30Z")

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I have been using the experimentals. Everything has been fine with them. Until today. I upgraded to #9722 and now when I try to load my game I get this error: DEBUG : invalid recipe id “tool\_black\_powder\_bomb” FUNCT…

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## [Why was acid rain removed?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/why-was-acid-rain-removed/21609)

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**Author:** [@Turtleoverlord](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Turtleoverlord)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [October 6, 2019, 6:31pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/why-was-acid-rain-removed/21609 "2019-10-06T18:31:45Z")

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I really want to know why,and if there is any mod that ads it back.

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## [How accurate is the 'mission destination' marker on the map?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-accurate-is-the-mission-destination-marker-on-the-map/21604)

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**Author:** [@Paul\_Blay](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Paul_Blay)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [October 6, 2019, 10:04am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-accurate-is-the-mission-destination-marker-on-the-map/21604 "2019-10-06T10:04:10Z")

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I’m doing a mission where I have to download some data from a lab workstation, only the map area marked by the asterisk does not contain any working consoles. Does it just mean “somewhere in this multilevel science lab c…

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## [Suggestion: Make Electric Jackhammer take Storage Batteries not UPS](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/suggestion-make-electric-jackhammer-take-storage-batteries-not-ups/21585)

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**Author:** [@Paul\_Blay](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Paul_Blay)\
**Replies:** 20\
**Last updated:** [October 6, 2019, 9:55am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/suggestion-make-electric-jackhammer-take-storage-batteries-not-ups/21585 "2019-10-06T09:55:47Z")

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I understand the UPS system is being removed / changed / something, and the ‘as is’ situation in experimental for Electric Jackhammer is pretty silly. A UPS or Advanced UPS can have 2500 charges, the Electric Jackhammer…

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## [Bug report (inconsistent charge use for jackhammers) and optional 'realistic' suggestion](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bug-report-inconsistent-charge-use-for-jackhammers-and-optional-realistic-suggestion/21605)

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**Author:** [@Paul\_Blay](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Paul_Blay)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [October 6, 2019, 9:53am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bug-report-inconsistent-charge-use-for-jackhammers-and-optional-realistic-suggestion/21605 "2019-10-06T09:53:24Z")

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In summary, construction tasks take far too little charge when using electric jackhammers. See also the thread that prompted this.

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## [Something funny about this basecamp NPC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/something-funny-about-this-basecamp-npc/21305)

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**Author:** [@Ricky\_Van](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ricky_Van)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [October 6, 2019, 12:24am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/something-funny-about-this-basecamp-npc/21305 "2019-10-06T00:24:25Z")

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so basically i give this beggar NPC a gallon jug of milk ( 14/15 capacity ) and somehow he left a pool of milk on its feet (which is 14 milk) possible bug? or ungrateful beggar NPC?

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## [How far down can you go?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-far-down-can-you-go/21583)

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**Author:** [@Paul\_Blay](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Paul_Blay)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [October 5, 2019, 11:21pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-far-down-can-you-go/21583 "2019-10-05T23:21:11Z")

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I’m mining for rock (lol) and I just wondered how far down you can go. No spoilers, but is there anything interesting far below like Minecraft’s lava or dwarf fortresses’ Hidden Fun Stuff?

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## [How to get to the next page at merchants](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-get-to-the-next-page-at-merchants/21598)

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**Author:** [@Bjo\_Hart](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bjo_Hart)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [October 5, 2019, 7:26pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-get-to-the-next-page-at-merchants/21598 "2019-10-05T19:26:03Z")

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Hello folks! I dont know if the aswer is already somewhere here, but can anyone tell me how to get to the next page in the trade screen. There are many things laying around, so my side of the list ist full, but there’s…

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## [Fire is broken in Android experimental](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/fire-is-broken-in-android-experimental/21595)

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**Author:** [@The\_32-bit\_guy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/The_32-bit_guy)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [October 5, 2019, 6:36pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/fire-is-broken-in-android-experimental/21595 "2019-10-05T18:36:22Z")

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When I stock a deployed brazier with planks,splintered wood etc it seems to only burn for a few minutes. The tinder(splinters,paper) are always consumed but a few burnt planks are left. Replacing the tinder and reignit…

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## [What has happened in this armory?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-has-happened-in-this-armory/21593)

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**Author:** [@fins](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/fins)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [October 5, 2019, 1:53pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-has-happened-in-this-armory/21593 "2019-10-05T13:53:42Z")

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I’m in a ice lab and cut my way into an armory, there was a turret which I destroyed without it firing, and I couldn’t find anything under the ruble except the remains of the shelves. Why did collapse/explode and from wh…

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