# Game Talk **URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/c/game-talk/27.md?page=110 [Latest](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/latest.md) · [Categories](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/categories.md) · [Tags](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/tags.md) **Page:** 111 --- ## [Pickle Jars are the poor man's TARDIS](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/pickle-jars-are-the-poor-mans-tardis/21732)
**Author:** [@Paul\_Blay](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Paul_Blay)\ **Replies:** 8\ **Last updated:** [October 23, 2019, 5:32am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/pickle-jars-are-the-poor-mans-tardis/21732 "2019-10-23T05:32:37Z")
When you find sealed jars of pickles they come with size six content inside a size two container. --- ## [File size question](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/file-size-question/21748)
**Author:** [@GamelyDerping](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/GamelyDerping)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [October 23, 2019, 4:27am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/file-size-question/21748 "2019-10-23T04:27:09Z")
Not really a bug. I was downloading files and noticed that the stable release is about twice the size of the latest experimental release. Why is that? Thanks in advance. --- ## [Vehicle Welding Rig not usable for installing vehicle parts?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vehicle-welding-rig-not-usable-for-installing-vehicle-parts/16271)
**Author:** [@Wetwings](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Wetwings)\ **Replies:** 10\ **Last updated:** [October 23, 2019, 2:32am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vehicle-welding-rig-not-usable-for-installing-vehicle-parts/16271 "2019-10-23T02:32:31Z")
I decided to make a vehicle welding rig so that I wouldn’t go through tons of normal batteries, but It seems I cant use the vehicle welding rig to actually install new parts on vehicles. I can only repair inventory items… --- ## [No log message when you find a charcoal kiln has finished burning](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/no-log-message-when-you-find-a-charcoal-kiln-has-finished-burning/21737)
**Author:** [@Paul\_Blay](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Paul_Blay)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [October 22, 2019, 10:28pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/no-log-message-when-you-find-a-charcoal-kiln-has-finished-burning/21737 "2019-10-22T22:28:45Z")
When you examing a Lit Charcoal Kiln and it turns into a Finished Charcoal Kiln there is no message left in the log, and no dialog displayed on screen to alert you to that fact. I’d expect something like ‘The charcoal ki… --- ## [Tool can only accept default ammo of ammo type](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tool-can-only-accept-default-ammo-of-ammo-type/21700)
**Author:** [@DeWolf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DeWolf)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [October 22, 2019, 4:47pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tool-can-only-accept-default-ammo-of-ammo-type/21700 "2019-10-22T16:47:19Z")
The experimental release from the 13th I made a soda can stove kit since I am can’t make black powder with a lit wood stove so my first thought was methanol and soda can stove however apparently despite being set to take… --- ## [Blob thoughts: Why it probably doesn't want us all dead](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/blob-thoughts-why-it-probably-doesnt-want-us-all-dead/21736)
**Author:** [@Paul\_Blay](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Paul_Blay)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [October 22, 2019, 3:42pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/blob-thoughts-why-it-probably-doesnt-want-us-all-dead/21736 "2019-10-22T15:42:29Z")
I think the surviving humans should be viewed as part of maintaining a healthy immune system. The Shoggoth are the white blood cells - aggressively destroying threats and the zombies are like antibodies - swarming toward… --- ## [Multiple hubs? (are present in the game and now there are more than 15 characters in this subject line)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/multiple-hubs-are-present-in-the-game-and-now-there-are-more-than-15-characters-in-this-subject-line/21740)
**Author:** [@Paul\_Blay](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Paul_Blay)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [October 22, 2019, 2:39pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/multiple-hubs-are-present-in-the-game-and-now-there-are-more-than-15-characters-in-this-subject-line/21740 "2019-10-22T14:39:47Z")
I just noticed that there is more than one Hub 01 on the map. I suppose that makes sense as you can’t know which way the player is going to explore. Does that mean you can do all the hub missions twice, or do they shar… --- ## [(Bug) Card readers are now uninteresting](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bug-card-readers-are-now-uninteresting/21731)
**Author:** [@Paul\_Blay](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Paul_Blay)\ **Replies:** 4\ **Last updated:** [October 21, 2019, 1:02pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bug-card-readers-are-now-uninteresting/21731 "2019-10-21T13:02:28Z")
If you (e)xamine a card reader you are not told that it is a card reader, and it does not respond with “You need a hacking tool to use this” (or whatever the phrase used to be). They still work if you have the right car… --- ## [Realistic fridge sizes (MOD)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/realistic-fridge-sizes-mod/20585)
**Author:** [@Wayticus](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Wayticus)\ **Replies:** 7\ **Last updated:** [October 21, 2019, 4:51am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/realistic-fridge-sizes-mod/20585 "2019-10-21T04:51:49Z")
Since fridges are not realistically all mini fridges 7Cf/200L, and rv fridges are not cooler size, this mod makes them more realistic sizes on the small end. Went from 200L/about 7Cf to 600L/about 21CF. RV ones went fr… --- ## [Figured out why my game keep crashing randomly](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/figured-out-why-my-game-keep-crashing-randomly/21724)
**Author:** [@Ricky\_Van](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ricky_Van)\ **Replies:** 4\ **Last updated:** [October 20, 2019, 8:13pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/figured-out-why-my-game-keep-crashing-randomly/21724 "2019-10-20T20:13:55Z")
so i’ve been experiencing this fatal crash in the game for long time (possibly 6 experimental build i’ve played has this crash happens randomly) and i was believing that this crash happens because something is wrong with… --- ## [I cant play any of the newest versions of android](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-cant-play-any-of-the-newest-versions-of-android/21549)
**Author:** [@Matthew\_Rice](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Matthew_Rice)\ **Replies:** 12\ **Last updated:** [October 20, 2019, 7:28pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-cant-play-any-of-the-newest-versions-of-android/21549 "2019-10-20T19:28:28Z")
I recently went to dowload the newest version build #9691, but when i after the starting load every time you start the game, it just crashes. Can anyone tell me what’s wrong with the game? --- ## [Primitive Metalworking](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/primitive-metalworking/21710)
**Author:** [@4R53N1C](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/4R53N1C)\ **Replies:** 4\ **Last updated:** [October 20, 2019, 6:09pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/primitive-metalworking/21710 "2019-10-20T18:09:56Z")
I was thinking it would be nice to be able to do mining and metalworking without rare tools. Humans have been working with metal for thousands of years and there are plenty of methods that don’t require complex machinery… --- ## [Bug: When batch crafting half of the liquid ingredients may be lost?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bug-when-batch-crafting-half-of-the-liquid-ingredients-may-be-lost/21723)
**Author:** [@Paul\_Blay](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Paul_Blay)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [October 20, 2019, 3:23pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bug-when-batch-crafting-half-of-the-liquid-ingredients-may-be-lost/21723 "2019-10-20T15:23:13Z")
I’ve seen this a few times, haven’t narrowed down exactly what is happening, but basically I go to craft something with (it says) all the ingredients necessary but then it says actually I need more \_\_\_\_. It looks like if… --- ## [Giving NPC sth to work](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/giving-npc-sth-to-work/21708)
**Author:** [@FunkleBlaze](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/FunkleBlaze)\ **Replies:** 21\ **Last updated:** [October 20, 2019, 3:31am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/giving-npc-sth-to-work/21708 "2019-10-20T03:31:06Z")
How to do this? I know that you must design area and tell them to do sth, but NPC is not doing anything. After few seconds (turns) I get information like “Priscila Doss completed the assigned task”. --- ## [Whoops. Intercom hates me now. (Hub quest glitch?)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/whoops-intercom-hates-me-now-hub-quest-glitch/21718)
**Author:** [@Paul\_Blay](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Paul_Blay)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [October 20, 2019, 3:16am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/whoops-intercom-hates-me-now-hub-quest-glitch/21718 "2019-10-20T03:16:27Z")
So, I was doing the first quest for Mr Intercom (or Miss Intercom? Didn’t check) and I ended up chopping the target up with a nodachi and brought the data recorder back to the Hub. Only Intercom didn’t want to know about… --- ## [Medical items that cataclysm lacks](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/medical-items-that-cataclysm-lacks/21631)
**Author:** [@MutaMan](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/MutaMan)\ **Replies:** 5\ **Last updated:** [October 20, 2019, 1:28am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/medical-items-that-cataclysm-lacks/21631 "2019-10-20T01:28:23Z")
So my guy got the flu, I got a stockpile of cough syrup for occasions like this but the other symptoms are what I can’t medicine away. I’ve compiled a small list of medicinal effects that cataclysm currently doesn’t have… --- ## [NPC Quests not working](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/npc-quests-not-working/21713)
**Author:** [@dragon57](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/dragon57)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [October 19, 2019, 1:43am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/npc-quests-not-working/21713 "2019-10-19T01:43:30Z")
I’m not sure what I am supposed to do in the find lab tunnels quest, I tried getting data from a workstation but that doesn’t complete the quest, and when when I got the quest to meet some soldiers somewhere the game cra… --- ## [What do you set NPC spawn rate at?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-do-you-set-npc-spawn-rate-at/21717)
**Author:** [@monny](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/monny)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [October 19, 2019, 6:40pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-do-you-set-npc-spawn-rate-at/21717 "2019-10-19T18:40:57Z")
Just curious what other people set it at. The default is 0.1, but I set it at 1 and still see NPCs pretty rarely. --- ## [Crash report ||](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crash-report/21716)
**Author:** [@Defective](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Defective)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [October 19, 2019, 12:00pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crash-report/21716 "2019-10-19T12:00:54Z")
Crash log pastebin.com/P2dqqCwZ Debug log pastebin.com/TAgn205t Picture --- ## [Does anyone know what the definition of the 'using' key in json is?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/does-anyone-know-what-the-definition-of-the-using-key-in-json-is/21714)
**Author:** [@snipercup](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/snipercup)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [October 19, 2019, 5:08am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/does-anyone-know-what-the-definition-of-the-using-key-in-json-is/21714 "2019-10-19T05:08:02Z")
I can’t find it anywhere and it’s a bit confusing. For example the sheet\_metal recipes in this file: in one it uses ‘steel\_standard’ like this: "using": \[ \[ "forging\_standard", 5 \], \[ "steel\_standard", 6 \] \], and i… --- ## [Would railguns get fouling?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/would-railguns-get-fouling/21691)
**Author:** [@Paul\_Blay](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Paul_Blay)\ **Replies:** 8\ **Last updated:** [October 19, 2019, 2:34am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/would-railguns-get-fouling/21691 "2019-10-19T02:34:16Z")
Found a H&K G80 Railgun, no ammo unfortunately. It has a lot of fouling and from the description that’s a gunpowder thing, so technically I think it probably shouldn’t get it. --- ## [Antiseptic overuse - bug report](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/antiseptic-overuse-bug-report/21688)
**Author:** [@FunkleBlaze](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/FunkleBlaze)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [October 19, 2019, 12:51am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/antiseptic-overuse-bug-report/21688 "2019-10-19T00:51:25Z")
Antiseptic bottle can be used even when it contained antiseptic hit 0. Bottle will disappear after leaving game. --- ## [Whats yor opinions on starting with op gear?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/whats-yor-opinions-on-starting-with-op-gear/21702)
**Author:** [@Matthew\_Rice](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Matthew_Rice)\ **Replies:** 10\ **Last updated:** [October 19, 2019, 12:11am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/whats-yor-opinions-on-starting-with-op-gear/21702 "2019-10-19T00:11:20Z")
I’ve personaly always just had a problem with justifying Myself when it comes to starting with mutations or cbms, whats your opinion on the matter? --- ## [Zombies running amok!](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/zombies-running-amok/21694)
**Author:** [@Brian\_Cahoon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Brian_Cahoon)\ **Replies:** 7\ **Last updated:** [October 18, 2019, 8:11pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/zombies-running-amok/21694 "2019-10-18T20:11:57Z")
So it seems like as I run down the road, there is a big parking lot with alot of cars. Also some cars and motercycles here and there on the road. I keep hearing crazy amounts of smashing metal. And it seems like the zomb… --- ## [A whole game, just in the base](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-whole-game-just-in-the-base/21709)
**Author:** [@Brian\_Cahoon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Brian_Cahoon)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [October 18, 2019, 5:15pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-whole-game-just-in-the-base/21709 "2019-10-18T17:15:08Z")
Im sure of you guys have been playing for a long time, so that this probobly wont seem like the big deal that it did for me. Yesterday I had boarded up the Evac Shelter, finally got into the very small town nearby, kille… --- ## [Can anyone help me figure out an error please?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-anyone-help-me-figure-out-an-error-please/21707)
**Author:** [@Brian\_Cahoon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Brian_Cahoon)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [October 18, 2019, 4:51pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-anyone-help-me-figure-out-an-error-please/21707 "2019-10-18T16:51:23Z")
I hope this isnt the wrong place to post this. I apologize if so :slight\_smile: I use experimental builds, and very rarely have any issue with errors. After updating today, when I start the game it gives this error DEB… --- ## [How to make charater spawn with vehicle on start](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-make-charater-spawn-with-vehicle-on-start/21542)
**Author:** [@The\_32-bit\_guy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/The_32-bit_guy)\ **Replies:** 8\ **Last updated:** [October 18, 2019, 4:48pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-make-charater-spawn-with-vehicle-on-start/21542 "2019-10-18T16:48:47Z")
How do I make a scenario mod where then charater spawns in or beside a specific vehicle on world start? --- ## [For some reason I was sure that you could use soap bars in washing machines](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/for-some-reason-i-was-sure-that-you-could-use-soap-bars-in-washing-machines/21684)
**Author:** [@Paul\_Blay](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Paul_Blay)\ **Replies:** 8\ **Last updated:** [October 17, 2019, 3:04pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/for-some-reason-i-was-sure-that-you-could-use-soap-bars-in-washing-machines/21684 "2019-10-17T15:04:42Z")
For some reason I was sure that you could use soap bars in washing machines but apparently you can’t. Was that changed recently, or am I just imaging it? I did a quick Google and as far as I can tell there’s no real lif… --- ## [Is the human race able to survive Cataclysm?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-the-human-race-able-to-survive-cataclysm/18204)
**Author:** [@Wojtek94](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Wojtek94)\ **Replies:** 223\ **Last updated:** [October 18, 2019, 1:13am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-the-human-race-able-to-survive-cataclysm/18204 "2019-10-18T01:13:23Z")
I am curious about your opinions about this issue. For me the human race is not able to survive Catacalysm due to many facts: 99% of world population is gone there are few or no doctors (esp surgeons) so surgery, child… --- ## [Very new player, very many questions](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/very-new-player-very-many-questions/20115)
**Author:** [@gtgiygus](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/gtgiygus)\ **Replies:** 25\ **Last updated:** [October 17, 2019, 9:35pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/very-new-player-very-many-questions/20115 "2019-10-17T21:35:31Z")
First of all, I am sure there are many such threads like this throughout the forums. I have done a few searches, but so many really old topics popped up I figured my best bet was making a new one. I have lived and died… [Previous page](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/c/game-talk/27.md?page=109) [Next page](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/c/game-talk/27.md?page=111)